Sexually Explicit Photos & The Beeb

[Khandro]

Does anyone care if someone wants to pay large sums of money to a 17 year old young man for them?

Is this simply a battle between the different news channels?

[smurfchops]

The teen took the money and was quite happy to take it, in exchange for the photos. And his mother didn’t know where all the money was coming from? Suddenly this teen is a victim. The BBC presenter didn’t sell him the drugs, did he? Or she…?

[Peter Pedant]

bad dougie is victim blaming - naughty boy,

There seems to be a misconceptiion on AB hem hem
if the photos were sent later

NO - - - if you take photos of a 14 y o - it is no defence to say 'well he is over eighteen now '

photos must be of an over eighteen year old

[Old_Geezer]

I am beginning to hate this system. This is the second time in two days my typing has been slung. In this case cut short. Why the hell do I waste my time ?

To rub salt in the open wound I was able to bring back the text and started deleting that already posted, then something utterly inexplicable occurs and much that still needs posting has gone forever.

[Old_Geezer]

IMO anyone aged lower (LESS THAN 18) ought not be considered adult. Across the board, most likely. So, anyone 17, 16, etc. should be considered a vulnerable indvidual, and an older individual being the responsible one in these type of situations. Once both individuals are deemed adults, then it's their business what poses of themselves as an adult they choose to swop/sale.

[Khandro]

I don't think this will be about young men in the 16,17, 18 age groups, (my grandfather was fighting on the Somme at that age.)

And how could you tell how old they are from a photograph anyway?

I think sadly they will be images of much younger children.

But why would anyone pay thousands for them?

[youngmafbog]

//The BBC presenter didn’t sell him the drugs, did he? Or she…?//

No but enabled the purchase of it - allegedly of course.

[chelle7272]

The case is about photos of a then 17, now 20 year old. Nothing about photos of other children.

[youngmafbog]

//the law has some odd consequences here… it would have been potentially legal to have sex with this person assuming no breach of trust and they could consent… but because they were not yet 18 the pictures are illegal//

Yes and no.

The law was supposed to be designed such that it didnt make sex between consenting "kids" illegal as that would be daft but protect them from predators. These predators could be other 17 year olds who want to use the pictures as blackmail - it was happening.

Either way the law is the law and if a BBC presenter, or anyone else, breaks it plod should be involved. But until at least charged (personally I think only after guilty) no names should be given.

The problem with the BBC is that they were told. At that point plod should have been bought in.

[Old_Geezer]

It is extremely sad (and a different circumstance) that young men in the 16,17, 18 age groups have to be told to defend their nation. If there were any other reasonable choice it wouldn't happen, and I'd hope most wouldn't want it to happen. Needs must when the devil drives; as "they" say.

[dave50]

I wonder when the subject of compensation rear it's ugly head? Won't be long I'm sure if it's owt to do with the alleged victim and mother.

[youngmafbog]

//And how could you tell how old they are from a photograph anyway?//

If digital, quite easily, plus there are often other clues.

//But why would anyone pay thousands for them?//

Why do people pay a fortune for Only fans when its all free out there anyway? There could be a myriad of reasons why, maybe even just as simple as trying to keep it secret. Who knows.

[Old_Geezer]

Probably because it is a certain individual that excites/interests them.

[DTCwordfan]

so who is the new Jimmy Saville?

[smurfchops]

Wonder if ‘victim’ and wonderful mother have any of the money left? Oh no, of course, that is called “saving”.

[barry1010]

young, you are a much better person than me if you know how old a person is from a photo.
I struggle judging the age of anyone when they are sat in front of me.

I easily passed for 18 when I was 14/15 simply because I was taller than most of my teachers and stocky. I see photos the police have posted because a 14/15/16 year old has gone missing and they don't look like children.

[barry1010]

It is never acceptable for an adult to engage in this sort of activity with a minor, regardless of who started it. The fact that money was exchanged makes it more seedy.

I really can't understand the attitude of some posters on this thread. If the allegations are facts (we don't know) there is nothing to suggest that the younger person was using drugs before these offences started. We don't know how these transactions started.
From the news reports the mother contacted the BBC as soon as she was aware of these incidents. There is nothing to imply she was benefitting from the money.
Both the mother and her child could have blackmailed the celebrity for a lot more than £35k - there is nothing to suggest that they did.

[Untitled]

people choose to pay for onlyfans in order to give adult entertainers a fair living... plus the illusion of having a connection with the person

i don't think the situation is the same... i think it more likely that a person with an awful lot of money got infatuated with this teenager and threw money at them

i think when i was 17 i would probably have sold someone pictures of my body quite happily if they were willing to pay that much for it lol... but even if it was willing it does still seem dodgy

[barry1010]

Not just dodgy, it's illegal.
I am baffled as to why anyone would do this knowing the consequences, especially somebody in the public eye or in a position that makes him a target for blackmail. Has he really not been aware of the sudden, explosive downfall of some other tv personalities in recent years?

[Untitled]

people tend to forget about all that when they are horny or infatuated barry... might have been a good idea to take a cold shower and have one off the wrist before dishing out £30k