Should Those Wrongly Convicted Of A Crime Pay For ‘Food And Lodging’?

[sp1814]

If so - why?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66324801

[Ryzen]

NJ @14:29..if I was in the final few years of medical school or similar and given 20 years for a wrongful conviction, you consider it fair that I should be compensated at student rates?

[New Judge]

I didn't suggest it was perfect! :-)

[Ryzen]

NJ....it should at least be based on projected earnings..as a starting point

[Peter Pedant]

Speak for yourself PP => NJ's explanation is clear and concise
of course I speak for myself

so you can charge - nay you must charge - if you lock someone up who is innocent for the cost of locking him up against his will?
righto ! as TTT often says

no wonder I did badly at law

[douglas9401]

There may be even more downsides to 'the law' other than simply being "a ass".

Unapologetic, aloof, stubborn, complacent, uninterested, it goes on.

[Hymie]

If it is viewed as fair to charge an innocent person for their board & lodging while at his Majesty’s pleasure – then there can be no reason not to similarly charge a guilty person.

While some guilty inmates may have no assets on which to make a charge, some may have considerable assets (such as property, or part thereof) and of course once released, they could have deductions from their pay applied – but for some reason this is not done.

[New Judge]

//If it is viewed as fair to charge an innocent person for their board & lodging while at his Majesty’s pleasure – then there can be no reason not to similarly charge a guilty person.//

But as I said in my first answer, Hymie, that's not really what's being done. He is having his potential income assessed and in doing that an allowance has been made for his living expenses. In a way it is calculating his "disposable income."

[tomus42]

Given that most people seem to be living below the breadline these days, the wrongly convicted should probably come out owing the state a few grand.

[Peter Pedant]

I think 'understand' is being used in two senses and is being confused.

I understand they eat babies on X island
is either - I have been told they do
or - I understand why

the two senses are different

[Old_Geezer]

Naw. The "why" is obligatory for the second example.

[tomus42]

The problem is that that they're not actually compensating for the wrongdoing.

They are just doing a calculation to say here's what you might have earned, now we'll subtract from it what it cost us us to wrongfully imprison you.

Unbelievable really.

[Deskdiary]

^^^agreed - it seems incredibly unjust.

Further, I’d say any calculation shouldn’t be based on potential lost earnings over 17 years given this poor chap has lost 17 years of his life - I’d go as far as saying he deserves millions in compensation, hopefully tax free.

I’m not a big ‘compensation culture’ fan as a rule, but his loss of freedom breaks my view.

[retrocop]

Poor chap is made to suffer a double whammy for someone else's injustice.

[Raving-Mod]

Deskdiary I took the trouble of watching the start of the appeal hearing on YouTube and read the transcript.

The claim you made about the victim was a very serious allegation and Mr Malikson's team stated the opposite of what you had claimed, as part of their case.

As your post is potentially libellous, I have deleted it.

[Deskdiary]

It’s not even remotely libellous Ravingmod (too scared to reveal
your identity) I posed a question.

I didn’t name anybody.

I really do suggest you educate yourself on libel, because it’s clear you have no idea.

[Raving-Mod]

I do not intend to discuss this matter any further and whilst accepting you disagree, I suggest you leave it at that.

[Deskdiary]

Agreed.

You’re clearly over estimating your knowledge, but let’s leave it at that.

[JimF]

"As your post is potentially libellous"

The editorial team doesn't care about libel. E.g. it's perfectly acceptable, with complete impunity, to openly accuse prominent politicians of theft.