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Women Set To Lose Rights To Equal Pay – In Bonfire Of Eu Regulations
I told you this would happen as a result of the Tory government removing citizens rights gained through EU membership; this was not a mistake, but a deliberate removal of the right. Unless the government re-instates the law it will be lost at the end of the year.
There will be many other similar rights we will lose, which will come out of the woodwork as time goes by.
My mate Phil explains more in the youtube video.
There will be many other similar rights we will lose, which will come out of the woodwork as time goes by.
My mate Phil explains more in the youtube video.
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//The workers’ case hinged on the “single source” principle, whereby it could be shown that the inequality in pay was attributable to a single source, in this case, the board of Tesco.'//
Indeed, Corby. A single case involving a single employer. at a time when the UK government allowed complainants to appeal to a supra-national court. That hardly concurs with "Women Set To Lose Rights To Equal Pay..." (from the OP) or "Tory Brexiteers abolished equal pay for women" (from the front of "Phil's" YouTube" nonsense) does it? Women continue to have the right to equal pay and any disputes between employers and employees will be settled in UK courts in accordance with UK legislation.
Indeed, Corby. A single case involving a single employer. at a time when the UK government allowed complainants to appeal to a supra-national court. That hardly concurs with "Women Set To Lose Rights To Equal Pay..." (from the OP) or "Tory Brexiteers abolished equal pay for women" (from the front of "Phil's" YouTube" nonsense) does it? Women continue to have the right to equal pay and any disputes between employers and employees will be settled in UK courts in accordance with UK legislation.
I’ve been accused of being anti-British on this website – when I asked for a copy & paste of any of my anti-British posts, none was forthcoming.
Now I’m being accused of denigrating women (every day) – so again, I’m asking for a copy & paste of any of my posts denigrating women (should be easy if I’m doing it every day).
Now I’m being accused of denigrating women (every day) – so again, I’m asking for a copy & paste of any of my posts denigrating women (should be easy if I’m doing it every day).
//NJ, if equal rights are not effected, why the need to introduce secondary legislation?//
I don't actually see that there is a need. The point to be covered by it is so narrow that it can easily be covered by judges examining cases on their individual merit and, if necessary, the higher courts setting precedents by way of appeals.
But that isn't really the point. The ridiculous title of this post ("Women set to lose rights to equal pay") and the equally ludicrous banner on the YouTube article, taken at face value are utterly misleading. Equal pay is enshrined in UK law (and was before we joined the EEC). It remains so enshrined and this very narrow aspect of it, which came not from EU law but from a judgement in the ECJ on a specific case, does not alter that.
It is typical of the increasingly hysterical nonsense that spouts forth from this particular OP and his mate, Phil.
I don't actually see that there is a need. The point to be covered by it is so narrow that it can easily be covered by judges examining cases on their individual merit and, if necessary, the higher courts setting precedents by way of appeals.
But that isn't really the point. The ridiculous title of this post ("Women set to lose rights to equal pay") and the equally ludicrous banner on the YouTube article, taken at face value are utterly misleading. Equal pay is enshrined in UK law (and was before we joined the EEC). It remains so enshrined and this very narrow aspect of it, which came not from EU law but from a judgement in the ECJ on a specific case, does not alter that.
It is typical of the increasingly hysterical nonsense that spouts forth from this particular OP and his mate, Phil.
//NJ, the legal experts advising the government clearly disagree with your opinion.//
That's their prerogative.
But it still doesn't mean that "Women [are] Set To Lose Rights To Equal Pay" or that "Tory Brexiteers Abolished Equal Pay for Women" - or anything like it.
A similar thread was posted a few days ago announcing that UK citizens were to lose the right to compenastion for delayed or cancelled flights:
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This was incorrect.
And there was another (which I cannot immediately find) which listed about six or seven rights which were about to be lost. Included in them (as I recall) was a right to a fair trial, the right not to be tortured and the right to liberty. You'll not be surprised to learn that none had any foundation in fact and all were simply the product of a vivid imagination which considers that only the EU can provide and protect the fundamental rights of UK citizens.
That's their prerogative.
But it still doesn't mean that "Women [are] Set To Lose Rights To Equal Pay" or that "Tory Brexiteers Abolished Equal Pay for Women" - or anything like it.
A similar thread was posted a few days ago announcing that UK citizens were to lose the right to compenastion for delayed or cancelled flights:
https:/
This was incorrect.
And there was another (which I cannot immediately find) which listed about six or seven rights which were about to be lost. Included in them (as I recall) was a right to a fair trial, the right not to be tortured and the right to liberty. You'll not be surprised to learn that none had any foundation in fact and all were simply the product of a vivid imagination which considers that only the EU can provide and protect the fundamental rights of UK citizens.
Even if NJ is correct, the arbitrary removal of 100s of UK laws will cause chaos in our courts as they try to work out what the applicable law is, come 1 January 2024.
It would be for the courts to decide whether women would still enjoy the right to equal pay.
How anyone can believe that the arbitrary removal of a whole set of our laws, just because they originated in the EU is a good idea, is beyond me. You might as well say let’s get rid of all laws that were passed on a Tuesday; who cares what they are – it’s really the same thing.
But it is not just chaos in the courts, people and businesses need to know what laws govern their lives/operations – at least the Labour Party have said that they will restore all laws relating to citizen’s rights, so yet another reason to kick the Tories out.
It would be for the courts to decide whether women would still enjoy the right to equal pay.
How anyone can believe that the arbitrary removal of a whole set of our laws, just because they originated in the EU is a good idea, is beyond me. You might as well say let’s get rid of all laws that were passed on a Tuesday; who cares what they are – it’s really the same thing.
But it is not just chaos in the courts, people and businesses need to know what laws govern their lives/operations – at least the Labour Party have said that they will restore all laws relating to citizen’s rights, so yet another reason to kick the Tories out.
//It would be for the courts to decide whether women would still enjoy the right to equal pay.//
It has been since 1970. Any employee who has a grievance over pay can take her (or his) employer to court (normally an employment tribunal). An adjudication will be based on provisions of the 2010 Equalities Act and, before that, the 1970 Equal Pay Act. In common with all legislation, any circumstances not covered by the legislation itself would rely on either case law (i.e. precedents) set in similar circumstances or, if none is available, a ruling by a higher court (by way of appeal) can be sought.
What other tribunal do you suggest should rule on such matters? Or, as is common with many supporters of the EU, are you suggesting that only a European court has the competence to make such decisions? If so, I have news: one of the reasons many people voted to leave the EU (apart from them being bigoted racists, of course) is to reserve those competences for the perfectly competent UK court system, operating under legislation framed by the UK Parliament.
This is now the third time I have seen you (ably assisted by your mate Phil) attempt to demonstrate that the wholesale ditching of UK citizens' rights is imminent. It is also the third time I, and others, have shown those claims to be nonsense. Incredible as it may seem the UK has a perfectly adequate framework of legislation and Common Law which protects the fundamental rights of its citizens and leaving the EU does not alter that.
It has been since 1970. Any employee who has a grievance over pay can take her (or his) employer to court (normally an employment tribunal). An adjudication will be based on provisions of the 2010 Equalities Act and, before that, the 1970 Equal Pay Act. In common with all legislation, any circumstances not covered by the legislation itself would rely on either case law (i.e. precedents) set in similar circumstances or, if none is available, a ruling by a higher court (by way of appeal) can be sought.
What other tribunal do you suggest should rule on such matters? Or, as is common with many supporters of the EU, are you suggesting that only a European court has the competence to make such decisions? If so, I have news: one of the reasons many people voted to leave the EU (apart from them being bigoted racists, of course) is to reserve those competences for the perfectly competent UK court system, operating under legislation framed by the UK Parliament.
This is now the third time I have seen you (ably assisted by your mate Phil) attempt to demonstrate that the wholesale ditching of UK citizens' rights is imminent. It is also the third time I, and others, have shown those claims to be nonsense. Incredible as it may seem the UK has a perfectly adequate framework of legislation and Common Law which protects the fundamental rights of its citizens and leaving the EU does not alter that.
//it’s good to know that you are aware of which rights we are going to lose as a result of these 100s of EU based laws being ditched//
actually its even better to know that UK has the right to choose/maintain its own laws as it did for thousands of years until the late part of 20th century instead of having to be told by a body we voted to leave.
Congrats& thanks BTW on turning this ex-remainer into a determined "lets stay out and make the best of it" with your repetative overdramatic nonsense
actually its even better to know that UK has the right to choose/maintain its own laws as it did for thousands of years until the late part of 20th century instead of having to be told by a body we voted to leave.
Congrats& thanks BTW on turning this ex-remainer into a determined "lets stay out and make the best of it" with your repetative overdramatic nonsense
hymie: "I’ve been accused of being anti-British on this website – when I asked for a copy & paste of any of my anti-British posts, none was forthcoming. " - you have been told several times it's your actions and desires that make you 5C. You want our country to be ruled from abroad by unelected foreign bureaucrats and do anything to advance that goal. That is text book treachery and not that long ago would have been a capital offence.
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