Eu Migration Crisis Puts Schengen Zone In Dange

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/eu-migration-crisis-puts-schengen-zone-in-danger/ar-AA1h9pZl?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5ffbc782c30a42febc1762567d14c5bf&ei=3

 

No sugar sherlock, 10s of thousands of undocumented young men wandering unhindered and unchecked around Europe.

[ToraToraTora]

Europe must repell this invasion before it's too late.

[Countrylover]

Wonder what Hymie and Gully have to say?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/france-blocks-waterways-to-foil-people-smugglers-taxi-boats/ar-AA1h9rFC?ocid=msedgdhp

 

 

 

[douglas9401]

But, but, that article shows the French trying to do something about the invading hordes.

 

It has no place on Answerbank and must be deleted forthwith.

[naomi24]

And suddenly we see rabbits in headlights.  Who'd a thunk?

[Hymie]

This is why they are bringing in the ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorisation System) next year to resolve this.

At present they have very little control over persons overstaying their permitted duration, since they can wonder from country to country.  In future, if you overstay your European visa you could find yourself fined and/or banned from travel to certain EU countries.

[theshedman]

Hymie, don't think this applies to those in the OP who are already there.  The ETIAS only applies to people coming from what they call third countries, ie those outside of the shengen zone.

[Old_Geezer]

How can it be in danger ? It's doing precisely as intended and exactly why idiot governments signed up to it.

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Hymie

\\At present they have very little control over persons overstaying their permitted duration, since they can wonder from country to country.  In future, if you overstay your European visa you could find yourself fined and/or banned from travel to certain EU countries.//

Thats fine if you have a visa which means you entered the EU legally, none of those arriving by a rubber boat will have these documents.

[New Judge]

Thats fine if you have a visa which means you entered the EU legally, none of those arriving by a rubber boat will have these documents.

Indeed. So let's elaborate a bit.

This is why they are bringing in the ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorisation System) next year to resolve this.

To resolve what?

The problem highlighted here is the arrival, without leave and on an industrial scale, of migrants from Asia and Africa entering Europe unconventionally. The ridiculous Schengen Agreement saw the abandonment of borders on mainland Europe so once the migrants land on the Continent, as you say, they are free to roam across the entire zone. Some countries are considering withdrawing from the agreement and to reinstate their border controls in an effort to stem the flow (and not for the first time – they did so previously in 2015). Of course the signatories of Schengen were warned before they signed that, like the single currency, it is a “fair weather” project – fine when there are no abnormal circumstances but an absolute impenetrable hinderance when there are. But pragmatism has never been a consideration where EU ideological projects are concerned.

ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorisation System) is planned for introduction next year. It will require legitimate arrivals into the EU from countries which do not require a visa, to hold an ETIAS certificate (which will be associated with their passport).

So tell us, how will the introduction of ETIAS resolve the problem of large numbers of people arriving without leave, or any papers at all? The reason people arriving without leave can roam freely over the Continent is solely because most of the EU has no internal borders. That is the folly that is Schengen – a folly that was well forewarned before it was introduced. ETIAS will simply provide a minor inconvenience for legitimate visitors. It will have no influence on unauthorised arrivals at all.

[theshedman]

It now looks like the ETIAS scheme may have been put back another 12 months to May 2025.  Not that it would have made any difference to the ones roaming the EU with no papers anyway.

[Canary42]

More scaremongering.   [Yawn]

[theshedman]

Where is the scaremongering canary.  Just an answer to Hymie's bit of the thread.

[bobbinwales]

So nothing to see here...all is good ?

[theshedman]

Nothing really bobbinwales.  I was only saying that it looks like it may have been put back again as Hymie was saying it came in in 2024.  Don't know where canary gets the scaremongering bit from.

[naomi24]

It does nothing whatsoever to address the problem of thousands of people - mainly young men - entering Europe without permission - which is what Europe should be addressing.  tinkering around the edges isn't going to solve that.  Hymie is choosing to miss the point being made here entirely.

[bobbinwales]

Hi theshedman....sorry my 'nothing to see? ' was to canary who seems to think that stories of mass immigration is just scaremongering

[theshedman]

Yes the ETIAS scheme has nothing to do with immigration which some on here want to link together.  Most will just think ETIAS is to get a bit more money out of us.  It wont help the problem that this thread is about.