Looks Like Game Is Up For Labour......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1818630/tory-party-conference-live-rishi-sunak

10% lead is not enough to secure the record swing they need to overturn an 80 seat majority. Who will replace Sir Beer?

[naomi24]

I read the other day that  Angela Rayner has her sights set on the top job - in which case it will go from bad to worse for Labour.

[webbo3]

Rayner as PM and Lammy as deputy.

[ToraToraTora]

......and Diane Abacus chancellor?

[retrocop]

Gaaawd stop it TTT. With suggestions like that you'll get run out of town. Just spluttered my Wainwrights over the table. Hideous buffoon

[webbo3]

Lol @ TTT

[Gromit]

How many more times. You are as deluded as Gully.

Labour won't have a majority, it will be a hung parliament.

Can the Tories get the LibDems or SNP on board for a coalition - very unlikely.

They have failed the country for 13 years, they do not deserve to win the next General Election.

[ToraToraTora]

Gromit, this is about Labour's chances. I agree it will probably be hung but we'll do a deal with the Ulster Unionists, Labour will not see power, they'll dump Sir Beer and probably the GOAS will take over.

[Gromit]

TTT,

We have already confirmed today that opinion polls are notoriously wrong and inaccurate, most of the time.

You are pinning your hopes on one poll giving the Tories a couple of points + change. But that is 10 points behind Labour.

Yoy're coming across as a bit desperate.

[webbo3]

Not as desperate as Gulliver.

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, how many seats do you think Labour, the Tories and the Ulster Unionists will win at the next election?

[ToraToraTora]

Gromit not really, we have both agreed many times that it will probably be hung. I'm not hoping anything i'm predicting that Labour will not get their boots into no 10. If it is hung the most likely outcome is the Tories will do a deal with the Ulster unionists. Labour/SNP/Lib Non Dems have all poo pood any sort of deal. A Labour majority is now very unlikely.

[THECORBYLOON]

Ed Davey hadn't ruled out a coalition with Labour.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12554969/amp/Lib-Dem-Ed-Davey-refuses-rule-Labour-coalition-rejoin-EU.html

[Countrylover]

Angela Rayner the fish wife-  God forbid!!    But I can see it happening 😫

[naomi24]

No one can predict the outcome of the next election and the polls are notoriously so often wrong but if anyone thinks Labour have it in the bag, or even that it will result in a coalition they could be sadly mistaken.  The prospect of both Labour and LibDems surreptitiously shoehorning us back into the EU together with their stance on illegal immigration will ring alarm bells.  I think Mr Starmer has shown his hand far too soon for his own good - and the undemocratic LibDems (slogan *** to Brexit) are a disgrace.  Watch that space.

[Gromit]

Unless you hadn't noticed, the Ulster Unionists are no longer the biggest party in NI. Plaid Cymru (in Wales will probably get a similar number of seats, and join a coalition with Labour (if need be).

[Togo]

Everyone ignores the elephant, that is looming, in the room. Reform intend to, and have been putting the ducks in place, contest hundreds of seats at the next GE. They will definitely attract millions of disaffected populist voters and all the seriously concerned anti illegal immigration vote. There are still twists to straighten out. Not least of which being, would either of the terrible two broker a deal for power with them if it became necessary. Ignore the polls, they long ago became a tool to affect the vote and have been used for decades to influence the hard of reasoning to vote for what they are told will be the winning side. Those very same ditherers have now, due to the influence of the web and faster communications that are not controlled by vested interests, become more inclined to vote agains the predicted  winner just to be contrary. 

[ToraToraTora]

18:57, gromit remember your 2019 prediction?

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1682720-3.html

remember this little gem?

"But talk of a 100 seat majority for Boris is laughable, " - ok not 100 but 80!

[Gromit]

// Reform intend to, and have been putting the ducks in place, contest hundreds of seats at the next GE. //

That will harm the Tories, not the LibDems or Labour. I hope they do takes votes from the Tories. Rather like the SDP in the '80s enabled the Conservatives for 2 General Elections.

Bring it on 👍👍

[ichkeria]

I was thinking about this the other day: who would do a deal with the tories? Only the DUP probably and they are a waning force in NI politics: they only have eight MPs now as it is so the numbers in all likelihood would not work out.

Were the conservatives by some miracle to end up forming a minority government thr chances are it would soon collapse and Labour might well get over the line in a fresh election.