Some Time Ago I Mentioned Here In Ab That The Israelis...

[sandyRoe]

Would probably consider a ratio of 10:1 in deaths to settle their blood debt with the Palestinians.  I thought about 20,000 deaths would satisfy them.

The latest figure stands at over 7,000.  Will the massacre of the innocents continue until my prediction is fulfilled?

I fear it will as nobody is asking them to stay their hand.

[ToraToraTora]

sandyRoe: "I think it comes from a dislike of injustice." - so cutting heads of babies, burning children alive in front of their parents, raping etc are justice in sandyRoe land?

[sandyRoe]

Try,

You seem to have an idea fixe about these decapitated babies.

Are you quite well?

[sandyRoe]

Ttt there, not try^

[ToraToraTora]

Sandy and co..... You're a disgrace.

You are supporting the sort of people that made this father happy that his daughter was dead so they could do no more to her, go on tell me this is propaganda:

 

[Countrylover]

It's a very unhealthy fixation  .  Worrying!

[ToraToraTora]

Ok so you're only concerned with the beheaduing of babies, you are happy with all the other attrocities. This level of support makes me think that you and countrylover are in some way connected to Islam.

[wolf63]

The initial attack by Hamas was cruel and Israel had to retaliate in some way.

Attempting to totally eradicate the Palestinians - killing more innocent people is not really an acceptable reaction.

This conflict will continue until someone actually attempts to sit both sides down to come to a peaceful solution.  Israel has to stop encroaching on Gaza territory.

How anyone can think that killing, killing and killing is going to solve any problems is something I won't understand.

TTT - you are out of order.  Both sides are as bad as the other.  In their long conflict, atrocities have been carried out by both sides.  

Man's inhumanity to Man!

[ToraToraTora]

wolf:"How anyone can think that killing, killing and killing is going to solve any problems is something I won't understand." - well wehn there are no more of Hamas, problem solved, ain't rocket is it?

"TTT - you are out of order.  Both sides are as bad as the other.  In their long conflict, atrocities have been carried out by both sides.  " - Perlease another Hamas apologist. Israel never start it, they finish it. They are NOT as bad as each other.

[ToraToraTora]

so no comments on the video at 15:45 from the Hamas mouth pieces?

[Gromit]

The last 12 months saw an increase in attacks by settlers, emboldened by Netanyahu.

No one in the west took much notice, but Arab regions were not surprised by 7th October attacks.

[Ellipsis]

> well wehn there are no more of Hamas, problem solved, ain't rocket is it?

No, it's a lot harder than "rocket" ...

There are about 2 million people in the Gaza Strip. Getting on for 10,000 have been killed, so there's still about 2 million. How many of those 2 million were Hamas supporters before October 7th, and how many are there now?  The chances are there are more Hamas supporters now in Gaza than before Israel retaliated, even if thousands have been killed in the last few days, because of the way Israel has retaliated.  So how do we get fewer Hamas supporters ... not just in the Gaza Strip, but the whole world ... carrying on killing innocent children alongside them?  I think not.

[ToraToraTora]

ellipsis: "The chances are there are more Hamas supporters now in Gaza than before Israel retaliated, even if thousands have been killed in the last few days, because of the way Israel has retaliated." - oh I see so they should have sent a diplomatic team and wrote a harsh letter! Dear Hamas, would you mind awfully not burning jewish children and decapitating babies? Perlease!

[Ellipsis]

Please what? You seem to enjoy misrepresenting what people say, so that you can provide some witty or repulsive response to something that was never said or even thought.  It's a straw man. If you want to have a reasonable debate then let's do so, but it's not possible if you behave like some kind of deranged toddler. 

[Peter Pedant]

God I am glad I missed most of this

[ToraToraTora]

What is there to debate? Hames attacked Isreal responded, end of.

[Ellipsis]

Oh, "end of" ... I think that would be best for you, because there is no discussion needed for you - it's all obvious.  But what's the problem if other people want to discuss it - would that be possible, without you misrepresenting them and shutting them down?

[ToraToraTora]

discus by all means but when I hear that Hamas are "freedom fighters" or "both sides are as bad as each other" - I'll wade it and put them straight. How anyone can think the two sides are in any way comparable or that Hamas are "freedom fighters" is stretch human incredulity to it's limit.

[Ellipsis]

OK then, how do we get fewer Hamas supporters ... not just in the Gaza Strip, but the whole world? 

[ToraToraTora]

I see none of the Israel haters have had the guts to comment on the Panorama excerpt at 15:45.

[ToraToraTora]

17:14, how do YOU think?