You Doubted The Attrocities.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-mutilated-charred-remains-bear-witness-to-the-extreme-barbarity-of-militant-attack-13001153

I assume you'll dismiss this from sky but there were beheaded children: "From a beheaded child to a man who was shot, stabbed, burned and then run over, a dedicated forensics team is confronted with the horrendous, stomach-churning injuries inflicted by the insurgents, as they work to identify the Israeli dead and bring closure to their families."

[naomi24]

I hesitated to watch that fearing I wouldn't be able to stand it, but I did.   The scientists say it all.  

[ToraToraTora]

....well the silence is deafening from some quarters.

[Atheist]

That's because there are no 'Hamas apologists' here.

[pastafreak]

Name them TTT. 

You are so determined with your accusations, yet I've seen no one doubting or supporting what has happened. 

[bazwillrun]

For the apologists....

[Atheist]

Dictionary definition of 'apologist'

"a person who supports a particular belief or political system, especially an unpopular one, and speaks or writes in defence of it:"

I've not spotted any posts here which support Hamas. There have been posts criticial of the Israeli government, but they woyuld not be apologists, they would be critics. There have been posts here which doubted the veracity of some reports, but that is not apologism.

You should be careful about the language you use.

[bazwillrun]

^
youre entitled to your opinion....

[Atheist]

What opinion, baz...?

[Countrylover]

You just can't help it can you TTT.  No way has anyone shown any support for Hamas actions.  If anyone has denied their atrocities I haven't seen any such postings.  Hopefully a mod will get rid of your post.  You were warned yesterday to stop all this!  

[naomi24]

//"a person who supports a particular belief or political system, especially an unpopular one, and speaks or writes in defence of it:"//

 

sandyRoe doesn't think Hamas are Terrorists.  He thinks they are freedom fighters with a just cause.  That seems to fit your description, atheist.

[Countrylover]

Thanks Atheist for your sensible post.  

[Atheist]

Naomi; Are you saying that you consider sandyRoe a Hamas apologist?

And what about the other names on TTT's list?

Do Site Rules allow such posts?

It seems to me that the OP is a deliberate attempt to insult and inflame other AB-ers.

[Zacs-Master]

Where does the part in Site Rules which reads:

'Discussions can get passionate but users should moderate their language and refrain from personal attacks and profanity. We encourage lively debate but name-calling, harassment or abuse will not be tolerated'

come into play?

[naomi24]

Atheist, I don't say that the methods Hamas uses are supported here  - I've not seen anyone say that - thankfully - but the cause has quite a lot of support - as it does among all the marchers we're seeing regularly now.   I think the rules allow that to be said. 

[Redhelen72]

//It seems to me that the OP is a deliberate attempt to insult and inflame other AB-ers.//

Do you think?

 

[Zacs-Master]

They allow it to be said in reasonable terms, Naomi. The language used in the OP and the singling out of one ABer would appear to be contrary to said Site Rules

[Ellipsis]

Here we go again - Rule 1:  users should moderate their language and refrain from personal attacks and profanity. We encourage lively debate but name-calling, harassment or abuse will not be tolerated.

Some people seem to have a problem understanding what a personal attack is. It's easy ... it's an attack on a person! Also known as an ad hominen attack.  More on that here, a lot more, if you need it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

An ad hominen attack is bad enough, and against rule 1 of the Site Rules, even if the member is on the thread and can therefore see what people are saying about them.  But on this thread, people are being called out and they're not even here. It's not right ...

> Name them TTT. 

You shouldn't have asked that, and TTT shouldn't have answered it, and I'm glad it has been removed by somebody who spotted it.

[Redhelen72]

Zacs it appears that some users get away with it by some MODs.

the fact the the Eds are allowing this to continue shows their disregard for users of the site.