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Why Are The Kids Stabbing Each Other?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-67365743

One life gone another ruined. What's the answer? We all carried knives when I was their age, I don't remember anyone getting stabbed.

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actually, can a mod please remove my last 2 answers?

from reading some articles it seems the police have asked for unhelpful SM speculation to stop, and i think both my answers fall in tht category

There are other things that are just as dangerous as knives surely, like sharp scissors or razor blades, broken glass etc. Etc, etc.  The fact is these feral kids will find something.  

I read an article this morning from one of the national newspapers published in 2010 saying that knife crime was worse in the 60s that in 2010 - is the OP saying that since 2010 knife crime has increased significantly?

Many spend their lives in front of a screen watching killings.Some of what they see must rub off.

Well I was a teenager/early 20s in the60s and out and about in London and other towns  I don't remember much knife crime.  I felt quite safe.  I don't remember much gang culture either and I wasn't a sheltered young person, I mixed with all sorts and felt quite safe.  

And most blokes carried penknives back then.

Err , no Teds and then no Mods and Rockers?

A pen knife is not a machette.

And I still think decent penalties a) prevents the reoffending and b) it will over time be a deterrant to a fair few.

True it will never be 100% but if your looking at 5 years min for carrying and it is handed out many wont want to risk that.

Problem is it needs a Police Force and we dont have one.

//There are other things that are just as dangerous as knives surely, like sharp scissors or razor blades, broken glass etc. Etc, etc.  The fact is these feral kids will find something. //

Might as well give them guns then.

 

See, I can be as daft.

The thing back in the day was that Teds, Mods and Rockers tended to stab their chosen 'enemy' rather than random, everyday citizens.

Now it seems to be open season for the mouth breathers, innit.

Ttt, we all carried knives when I was their age! Are you having a bubble or were you a skinhead ? 

I suppose you are picking on me again ymf.  My husband was a  mod he tells me.  I mixed with mods, rockers, hippies etc.  Our local town had a large immigrant population areas Of course there was some violence, but it doesn't compare to what is happening now.  

As for your statement about guns........

You are so clever......... not.   

 

You are right Douglas.  

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15:05, we all had a pocket knife and usually a sheath knife for expeditions etc.

And of course 'we' weren't all coked off our chebs half the time.

//15:05, we all had a pocket knife and usually a sheath knife for expeditions etc.//

That's the difference. They were carried as tools. You wouldn't dream of using one on a person. Nowadays they are carried as weapons.

I don't know your age Ttt, but yes knives were carried for good reason.  In fact hubby still carries one around.  Comes in handy  when he's outside in the garden and woods and inside for all sorts of things!

//Ken - the problem with 'deterrent' sentences is, the mindset that carries and uses a knife is not the mindset that even thinks about, much less is deterred by, thoughts of the consequences of doing so.//

Which is exactly why tough sentences are required. The violent yet  'undeterrable' need to be kept out of circulation for as long as possible.

Sadly though we have neither the facilities or the will to build them, unless by private companies who are even more useless than our rulers.

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