Suella Braveman. Why Do We Hate Straight Talking Politicians?

[ToraToraTora]

People are always moaning that you can never get a straight answer out of a politician, they never answer a question, they are always evasive etc etc. Along comes one who actually says what most of us think and the hand wringing goes in overdrive.

[youngmafbog]

//right wing Football Lads//  Spoken like a true Metropolitan elite. You may be surprised to learn there are planty of traditioal labour football supporters that want to protect it too.

 

//homelessness is a "lifestyle choice?" Righto, that's sorted then.//  Taken out of context but I'd expect nothing less from a rabid pinko.  In reality it is true for many, I worked with a guy that works (volunteer) with the homeless.  One of the biggest problems is some simply dont want to be part of society, that is a choice.  There are a fair few others that choose to keep their drugs booze and in some cases dogs so they will not be admitted to shelters.  Again a choice wouldnt you say?

 

[ToraToraTora]

12:40, bang on togs, BA.

[Atheist]

YMF

Football Lads is what they call themselves, it's not my label. And they are definitely right wing nationalist types, anti foreign etc.

[youngmafbog]

You are being very selective atheist, there are many football fans wanting to protect it, many who are not right wing in any sense of the word.

You do realise that many working class football fans and players gave their lives so you would be free to spout your nonsence?

[ToraToraTora]

Yeah all football fans are Tories YMB! didn't you know!

[youngmafbog]

I know TTT 🙄

[ichkeria]

By end large she's not saying what her colleagues are scared to say. Most of the objections are based on not actually agreeing with her. I support her right to express her opinions but expressing opinion, controversial or otherwise, or in this case almost certainly making damaging and false accusations unsupported by a majority of her cabinet colleagues while doing, it would seem little else, is increasingly incompatible with her status.

[maggiebee]

We know that Jesus was born in a stable.  Well.....it was a lifestyle choice didn't you know.

[ToraToraTora]

maggie and YMB have the same avatar!

[Ellipsis]

Hopefully, you know the difference between "Football Lads" and "football lads".  Just in case you don't ...

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Football_Lads_Alliance

[maggiebee]

Good taste TTT

[ichkeria]

The FLA and the DFLA.

Reminds me a bit of those Judaeans :-)

[Ellipsis]

... says the Irishman!

[douglas9401]

Straight talking is great, needs to be backed up by action though.

See boatloads of unwashed in hotels, knife crime, war on drugs...

She's just another mouth.

[ToraToraTora]

She would fix that in five minutes dougy if she wasn't stymied by the trobiscites at every turn. People like you and gromit love to moan about the issue then poo poo every attempt at a fix.

[Ellipsis]

Nope, she's wrong, wrong, wrong. She should resign, which would be the honourable thing to do if she disagreed with the Cabinet line, but she won't do that because her objective is to be sacked, making her the leader-in-waiting. In the meantime, she craps on the Met, craps on the Palestinians, craps on the homeless, craps on the refugees ... craps on everyone except her little cadre.  It's all about Suella.

[ichkeria]

"... says the Irishman!"

Thank you :-)

It occurs that had they been volleyball fans instead we'd have the VLA and the DVLA: lots of potential for confusion there ...

[Ellipsis]

This is very informative ... 44 minutes, though:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001s5p5

Released On: 09 Nov 2023

Why did the Home Secretary write a newspaper column that puts her on a collision course with both the UK’s most senior police officer… and seemingly the prime minister? In this week’s podcast Amol and Nick look at the politics of protest – and what exactly Suella Braverman is trying to achieve by taking on the police, ahead of a proposed march through London on Armistice Day calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. They’re joined by Neil Basu, who served for thirty years in the Met Police, including as national lead for counter-terrorism. For many years he was deputy to current Met Commissioner, Sir Mark Rowley.

[tomus42]

Parliament passes the laws and it's up to the police to enforce them. In that sense they're independent of govt and not just doing their bidding as they would be in a police state.

What she's doing is attempting to exert political influence on them for her own purposes, which is wrong.

[andres]

Suella didn't say that it was a lifestyle choice for all the homeless. She said -'-for some'.   Some of the homeless do prefer to live on the streets.