Johnson And Sunak ...Were Quite Happy To Let People Die....during Covid.

[gulliver1]

From Sir Patrick Vallance's Diary.  Johnson said let covid rip, despite he knew that people would die and Sunak said that was Ok with him .Another diary entry said" There will be more casualties but so be it -they have had a good innings"  "Most people who die have reached their time anyway"What callous pair of Bar...stewards.. The pair of them want locking up.

[-SharonA-]

Gramps whether the opposition went along or not, do you think Boris would have listened?? He didn't heed the advice of his own team!!

[Peter Pedant]

hi g'lee! - that should be g'die g'lee !

the problem dear Brooteth, is that the measures they are discussing clearly didnt work

and so all the ya-ya shall we shant we - to my mind are not even worth tlaking about.

wd lock down or son of lock down get R below one - we didnt - it didnt, and probs never wd

what DID get R below one was vaccintion ( Gilber) and its roll out ( Harding)

R plummeted in a few days ( not documented, but I was watching carefully at the time) - so the pandemic really did implode

( R down dooby do down down - even I was surprised at the speed )

[Peter Pedant]

R - you see if you have a disease X whcih on average infect ONE other person, then as soon as 51% have had it, it will collapse ( and R is below one see?)

and if it is two people infecte don average, then when the 2/3 of the pop have had it, it will collapse

Measles - 12 - so 1 - ( 1/13) have to have had it 97%. 

I wdnt have thought this is too complex for a cabinet - altho it may be for AB hur hur hur

vaccination was the only thing that worked - and lock down and masks didnt ( and wdnt)

One blind alley was - surfaces were infected ( not a realy problem) and human to human transmission DIDN't occur ( oops !)

[Peter Pedant]

and was Covid racist?

Yup - of the inital ten doctors to die from infection from their patients..... 8/10 were Asian ( Indian) ( BMA we have a problem houston)

[gulliver1]

SharonA- @ 10.02 ...... I would have dug that ditch for him....

[Peter Pedant]

there is a hanging ditch  in Manchester, er ready made for  him

[Peter Pedant]

trying to help

[Old_Geezer]

So, Johnson and Sunak were thinking along the right lines then. Not that one should deliberately cause deaths (such as returning still infected individuals back to their care homes) but neither should one be so blinkered as to wreck the national economy and remove basic freedoms from citizens on a fruitless attempt to save everyone.

 

Illness causes deaths, one needed to accept that and balance the reaction accordingly. Some seem still unable to grasp that even now when comparisons between nations applying a light touch and those determined to control citizens show the former tended to fare as well or better than the latter.

 

Of course light regional restrictions to manage hospital demand is sensible. Going overboard and throwing away valued western beliefs in a panic reaction, certainly is not. Yes people were going to die, and one needed to accept that which one couldn't sensibly change.

 

And now some who haven't learnt from the experience are calling for further lockdowns now. They need to be ignored as they can't seem to move away for the 'save all no matter what the cost' mindset. It's not even as if there was no extra death consequence from the failure they eventually went with last winter. Other medical conditions got pushed aside as lower priority with disastrous consequences for those affected.