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gulliver1 | 14:47 Thu 28th Dec 2023 | News
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Tim Martin is to receive a Knighthood in the New Years Honours.For services to business And Brexit..OMG they are giving these knighthoods away.

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YNNAFYMMI, the Electoral Commission states there were 3,987,112 folk in Scotland eligible to vote in the Brexit Referendum and about 2.68 million folk actually voted.

However, your party voting figures total 4,800,000 (without whatever made-up figure you have for Scottish Lib Dems) and your total for those you claim voted leave is more than 275,000 higher than the actual result.

Good golly gosh,TCL,you mean more SNP voters voted for Brexit than i thought?A whole new can of worms opened there TCL.

No.

Miffy is just having a laugh, the corbeyloon, repeating the same untruths knowing it winds you up. I doubt anyone is influenced by the distortion  so maybe just ignore him?

"He" is a "she" and her grasp of reality is minimal at the best of times.

Bloody pair of cheeky wee imps.Be off with you.

@20.34.nma,TCL likes to think that the whole Scottish nation was against Brexit.It wasnt.The most voters up here in Scotland who voted for Brexit was SNP voters.A lot more SNP voters voted for Brexit than Tory or Labour voters up here in Scotland.That seems to stick in TCLs craw for some reason or other.

ynnafymmi 'One of the best posts of the year dont you think?'

Last year and this year 2024..?

So, do they have Wetherspoons up there in Scotland..?

New Judge 'One of the trademarks of a civilised society is the ability to disagree but still remain on good terms.'

Agreed.

New Judge 'I’m not denigrating Ramsgate. It is indeed a lovely town with some superb architecture (the Royal Victoria Pavilion and its railway station amongst it) and interesting history. But like many coastal towns in the UK it really doesn’t have much going for it.'

I'd be interested to know if Ramsgate and other 'run down' places, seaside towns or other towns etc would have been better off for investment/support if we were still in the EU, or as we are now.. 'free and empowered' to fix all our problems.

EU support/funding went a long way to help our country.

@New Judge..

And then there's all the new housing we so desperately need in Thanet, around Westwood etc.. NOT same elsewhere in the UK.

"I'd be interested to know if Ramsgate and other 'run down' places, seaside towns or other towns etc would have been better off for investment/support if we were still in the EU, or as we are now.. 'free and empowered' to fix all our problems."

It would have made not a blind bit of difference. Ramsgate (and many other coastal towns in the UK) became run down long, long before we left the EU. Their demise can probably be traced to the advent of cheap package holidays to Europe in the late 1960s/early 1970s. EU "grants" (for the reason why I use the term in inverted commas, see below) were not provided to invest in businesses in run down towns.

"EU support/funding went a long way to help our country."

The funding you speak of was not "EU support". It was support provided by the nations who were net contributors to the EU budget (with the UK, during its membership, being the second largest contributor after Germany). The grants were not monies graciously provided by the EU from the kindness of its heart (since the EU does not have or produce any money of its own). We were simply getting some of our contributions back to be spent as directed. Rather like me stealing twenty pounds from you and giving you ten pounds back on the condition you spend it as I tell you to. Not something, I think, you'd be particularly grateful for.

I remember visiting Ramdgate and Hastings in the mid and late 60s. They were thriving towns and bustling. The decline started in the 70s. We foolishly joined what was then called the EEC(it was to become the EUSSR) in 1973. Not a coincidence I feel. The ports and fishing businesses were stolen and visitors funded to go to Spain using our own money.  

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