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Khandro | 17:13 Mon 22nd Jan 2024 | News
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First thing this morning there was an excellent leading article on the web page of the Telegraph; 

'Multiculturalism is becoming a Trojan horse for Islamist domination.

The Michaela scandal is another clash between this hostile ideology and British values.'  by Nick Timothy.

 It has now gone without trace - can anyone think why this may have happened ?

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"Give it 100 years and this country will be an islamist state with all the horror and intolerance that goes with it, helped along by the gullible left and when it all comes to pass they will be tying themselves up in knots to try and justify it."


and what do those of you who actually believe this is true want to see done about it? be specific. no euphemisms, no vague assertions, what actual policies would you put in place to stop this imagined future from happening? 
 

would you like to see legal limits on the number of children muslims can have? would you like muslims to be deported to whatever country of origin we can come up with? would you to see mosques bulldozed? 

newjudge once told me he wants to see islam "eradicated" in europe. what do those of you who agree with him really imagine that will look like?

say it. say what you want to happen. tell us what this "battle to save the west" should actually involve.

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Corbyloon (& naomi). There are three possibilities; 

Either I lie, - and what I say is a complete fabrication.  I am an illiterate idiot.  Or, The Daily Telegraph puts out a different world website which is edited throughout the day differently than the home UK edition.

Take your pick. 

there is another possibility khandro... which is that you made a mistake and are being pigheaded about admitting it

untitled...I have wondered the same but reluctant to ask. 

Mine was to untitled at 13:30

"newjudge once told me he wants to see islam "eradicated" in europe."

Yes I think I did say something along those lines. The only thing that has changed is that I would actually like to see Islam eradicated globally. That said, I'm none too keen on most other religions either and would like to those practicing any of them restricted to small family gatherings in private homes only.

"what do those of you who agree with him really imagine that will look like?"

It won't look like anything because (a) it's not possible and (b) no government will attempt it anyway, even if it was.

As Mr Timothy points out, the die is cast. The time to address what has now become an intractable problem was when it first reared its head: when Muslims began demanding prayer facilities at work, when their preachers began holding sessions in the middle of the road in Finsbury Park. When all of the many things that were done in the name of Islam, it should have been made clear that no special facilities will be made available here and if Islam was so important to Muslims and they needed them so much, they would be better to seek somewhere else to live.

But it's too late now. Those who said we must be tolerant have had their way. It can be done; the Moors (around 3m of them) were finally expelled from Spain in the 1500s, following the outlawing of Islam and the Moriscos, who had been forced to convert to Christianity, followed not much later. But that won't happen again.

If the Spanish expelled the Muslims in the 15th century. The we can do it again in the 21st century. Never say never.

is that what you'd like to see done david small? what do you think that would look like?

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untitled //there is another possibility khandro... which is that you made a mistake and are being pigheaded about admitting it//                                                                                                   I take that as a cowardly way of saying I Lie, typical!

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Two measures which were outlined long ago by the much maligned T.Robinson, - and are actually enforced in some other counties are, (1) No more Mosques ("We have enough.") and (2) No child benefits beyond the second child. 

I would add a third which I've stated many times; The mosque to which any Muslim who commits a terrorist act, be closed for 6 months probation, any further attacks during that period and it is bulldozed.

Khandro; Would you also like to see Muslims obliged to wear some kind of badge or symbol so that they could easily be recognised?

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Michel Houllebecq's novel, 'Submission' is worth consideration;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submission_(novel)

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Atheist: No. And btw, I regularly play golf with a friend who is a devout Muslim, a really nice guy, & he would agree 95% with what I've written above. i.e. perhaps not "no more" but accept limitation where the community thinks it inappropriate, (like the Piccadilly Circus proposal!).

KHANDRO,when you go to the Telegraph website, what is the link you see?

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Corbyloon : You are obviously uninterested in the real subject matter, so why not kindly leave the stage and try to find someone else bore.   

For the last time; The Nick Timothy article was there on my screen early yesterday a.m. and had gone by 11.00 a.m. not to return.

KHANDRO, are you in the UK or are you in Germany still?

"Corbyloon : You are obviously uninterested in the real subject matter, so why not kindly leave the stage and try to find someone else bore."

 

but tcl IS responding to YOUR question and subject matter!

" I take that as a cowardly way of saying I Lie, typical!"

erm there is a difference between making a mistake and lying... perhaps you might be a touch illiterate

"I regularly play golf with a friend who is a devout Muslim, a really nice guy, & he would agree 95% with what I've written above."

how convenient!! what a shame your pet golf muslim isn't here to agree with you about the errr "muslim agenda for europe"... one wonders why you would be so friendly with a person whose entire religion you characterise as a threat

i play billiards with ten lovely muslims who all agree with me so i suppose that means i win ;) 

Khandro, as I said earlier newspapers update their online pages throughout the day.  That's why it disappeared from your screen.

Those suggesting that anyone might  want the number of children Muslims have restricted or that they're made to wear badges etc are doing it for one reason and for one reason only - to align a wish to protect the western  way of life with Nazism.  Those questions are posed deliberately by people I strongly suspect haven't a clue about Islam or what it means - and it's thoroughly insulting.   In my opinion, we have to start saying 'no' - and firmly - to Islam's foibles and demands - and now.  No concessions.  Complacency will be the west's downfall.  

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