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"The issue under debate here is..//2000 Eu laws scraped//"I think we may be at cross purposes (which may be my fault for not making my point sufficiently clear).You began by saying “It's a bit weird that this is automatically assumed to be good when we don't even know what the laws are.”I assumed that what you queried as perhaps not necessarily being “good” is...
15:19 Thu 25th Jan 2024

From scratch?

Scrapped too. But its old news really just reminding us of what has been done in recent years and will happen over the coming months.

This of course a reminder to someone to post a video from Phil saying how we no longer have employment rights to equal pay etc

NMA has nailed it.

 

There'll be somebody along soon who will tell us this means we won't get our paid holiday and women (can I still say women?) will be paid less.

I suspect that you lot don't have a clue what this is all about. Can anyone explain one law that matters?

//Can anyone explain one law that matters?//

Yep! The Retained EU Law(Revocation and Reform)Bill. Enacted 12/07/2023.

This means that we can bin the EUSSR edicts at our leasure.    

Imagine the government decided to scrap every law passed in the last 50 years that received royal ascent on a specific day of the week (say Tuesday) – most people would think such an idea was utter madness, especially when you don’t know what those laws are.

 

But this is what the government has done, but rather than scrapping those laws receiving royal ascent on a Tuesday, they have scrapped laws deemed to be of EU origin.

 

I have already posted (on this site) as the loss of UK citizens rights and protections come to light (probably through court cases) as a result of scrapping these laws, I will be posting details on this site.

 

And if you think no such thing will happen – what do you think those scrapped EU laws mostly concerned?

In June 2022, the government said there were 2,427 pieces of retained EU legislation but now they've found more and it's 6,757 pieces.

There's 4,524 pieces of legislation to be looked at still.

It's a bit weird that this is automatically assumed to be good when we don't even know what the laws are.

Togo; think about your answer. Is it relevant to the the op?

Which "...loss of UK citizens rights and protections..." do you think will happen?

//Which "...loss of UK citizens rights and protections..." do you think will happen?//

We don't know do we, because we don't know what laws have been scrapped. Perhaps the protection that says chocolate can't taste sheehite like American chocolate does is included. 

tomus42 - Hymie thinks he knows (he doesn't know) so I was intrigued to hear about the apocalypse we'd know be facing.

"It's a bit weird that this is automatically assumed to be good when we don't even know what the laws are."

I suppose it depends whether you prefer the United Kingdom government to be responsible for legislation in the UK or you prefer that responsibilty to rest with the EU.

"I have already posted (on this site) as the loss of UK citizens rights and protections come to light (probably through court cases) as a result of scrapping these laws, I will be posting details on this site."

Well, IIRC, the claims you've made so far about alleged loss of UK citizens' rights as a result of this have proved to be false. But I'll stand by for more. Meanwhile:

"And if you think no such thing will happen – what do you think those scrapped EU laws mostly concerned?"

Judging by what's already been revoked, probably regulations concerning the minimum price of beetroot. Here's the schedule of 600 laws ditched at the end of 2023:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/schedule-of-retained-eu-law

Here's a flavour:

Loading and Unloading of Fishing Vessels Regulations 1988 (S.I.1988/1656)

Purpose:
These Regulations implement in part Council Regulation (EEC) No.2078/92 (OJ No. L215, 30.7.92, p.85) on agricultural production methods compatible with the requirements of the protection of the environment and the maintenance of the countryside. The Habitat (Water Fringe) Regulations 1994 related to an agri-environmental scheme which closed to new applicants at the end of 1999

Reason for revocation:

This legislation is redundant as it was superseded by the Merchant Shipping and Fishing Vessels (Lifting Operations and Lifting Equipment) Regulations 2006

I've had a glance at the schedule and it appears to me that the vast  majority of it is pure unadulterated regulatory bilge serving only to tie business and commerce in knots (and so stop them being too competitive).

When historians look back on the last fifty-odd years, they will wonder quite how the UK's politicians ever allowed this country to get sucked into this regime of  bureaucratic diarrhoea. It will be perhaps the greatest mystery of our age.

//I suppose it depends whether you prefer the United Kingdom government to be responsible for legislation in the UK or you prefer that responsibilty to rest with the EU.//

You suppose wrong then. It actually depends on whether you consider the laws in question benefit the people of the UK or not, irrespective of their origin.

NJ has kindly provided the first example (of no doubt many) of losses as a result of these scrapped EU laws.

The purpose of the EU law scrapped, that he gives as an example was:-

These Regulations implement in part Council Regulation (EEC) No.2078/92 (OJ No. L215, 30.7.92, p.85) on agricultural production methods compatible with the requirements of the protection of the environment and the maintenance of the countryside. The Habitat (Water Fringe) Regulations 1994 related to an agri-environmental scheme which closed to new applicants at the end of 1999.

In other words it is concerned with environmental protection.

But the clamed legislation that supersedes it (Merchant Shipping and Fishing Vessels (Lifting Operations and Lifting Equipment) Regulations 2006) contains no provision for the protection of the environment – what a surprise!!!!

I'm sure the criteria will have been whether the EU demanded laws being considered benefit the people of the UK or not. And so the discussion has to be about who has control, your elected and accountable national government or an unaccountable foreign elite power group. One may have hoped that the answer to that was clear.

We voted to leave the EU in June 2016.

And left at the end of 2020.

Yet we still have thousands of legacy EU laws. What have the Government been doing for 8 years?

And the Government suddenly get round to thinking about replacing those laws and announce they will, just a few months before a general election.

But nowt will be done until 2026 at the earliest, a full 10 years after the Brexit vote.

NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!!

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lets hope they are all bad ones eh. 

“It actually depends on whether you consider the laws in question benefit the people of the UK or not, irrespective of their origin.”

No it’s not. The issue under debate here is not one of the quality or value of the legislation. It is one of who has jurisdiction over the UK’s affairs. I would far rather be subject to legislation with which I did not particularly agree but which was drafted, scrutinised and enacted by the UK Parliament than any I did perhaps find agreeable but which was imposed by edict from unelected foreign bureaucrats.

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