Isn't Apostasy Punishable By Death In T R O P ?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-68239004

perhaps fake apostasy is allowed.

[jackthehat]

They are allowed to lie to the Infidel in the 'cause' of Islam. It is called Taqiyya.

[jackthehat]

^rubbish grammar but I think you'll get my drift.

[davebro3]

Like all religion - complete humbug.

[retrocop]

Seems they make up the rules to suit.

[ToraToraTora]

apparently taqiyya - the practice of concealing one's belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties - is only allowed when under threat of death or injury.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/taqiyyah

[barry1010]

My daughter in law is still alive and kicking.  

[Canary42]

Oh goody goody, yet another thread for the islamophobes to wallow in their bigotry - I do believe they were getting withdrawal symptons since it's more than 3 days since the last one.

[retrocop]

       

 

//apparently taqiyya - the practice of concealing one's belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties - is only allowed when under threat of death or injury.//

 

   Or when they are just trying to wriggle out of their countrie's draft board . It is suprising how many people I have heard say that there are few women on these rubber dinghys but fit young men of fighting age. Thereby hangs a tale.                                                   

[retrocop]

   There is absolutely NO requirement for the many thousands of Muslims legally residing in this country to change their religion from Islam to Christianity. Suddenly we have a mass influx of illegal invaders rocking up illegally on our shores uninvited and we begin to see a trend in Damascene conversions once they have settled in to await the verdict of their bogus asylum claims. Anyone who cannot see through this,canary,are naive in the extreme.                                                                            

[fender62]

5th columnists who will join or setup sectarian militia groups, make the ira look tame.

[naomi24]

TTT 15.25, if you think about it that's what is being done.  They are hiding their belief.

[ToraToraTora]

15:34 are you not a bit concerned that these people are abusing our trust and hospitality canary? Does your hatred of this country know no bounds?

[ToraToraTora]

15:21, yes of course I was not aware of taqiyyah but it seems that is only allowed if they are in danger.

[ToraToraTora]

16:09, I get threatened with suspension if I use that phrase.

[douglas9401]

As fly as a bag of weasels, illegals and churchmen both.

Wee Ricky needs to pull on his big-boy pants and confront the godly before this gets out of hand.

Fat chance right enough.

[naomi24]

TTT 17.16.  Don't you believe it.  Where the 'kafir' is concerned, anything goes.

[naomi24]

Canary, ignoring any argument in favour of condemning anyone who criticises Islam as a 'bigot'  makes you ... a bigot.  Please stop doing it.

[Peter Pedant]

erm no I dont think it is - - unlike....

Charles II remained a protestant ( he had to to be King remember. Charles III tried to change the oath and was told he cd only do that when he was king and at that time ( pre-oath) he wasnt - superior governor of all religions crap etc

Then Charles II converted on his death bed ( apologising for taking so long to die) and was found to be a Roman in pectore ( yup Latin spotted) since 1642. Converted up a tree they say.

and so He KNEW that the Titus  Oates conspiracy 1678 to assassinate Charles to put James on the throne was a load of total oof.

Apostasy is converting in and then converting back, by the way. Not just converting. Heathen converting to Islam and going back to worshipping Idols - not just converting out. ( kufr)

Sephardic Jews ( thpain, ethpanya) converted to Christianity. Cisnieros made life difficult for them - not all Jews before someone starts screaming - conversos. Then they said later, oh no we were only pretending - like around 200 years later.

Nuns were in central York ( no not jewish nuns, keep up) as a roman catholic order, and were hidden as a society of widows

we were ordered to call monks, 'Sir', to remind parties that they had to masquerade as protestant squires

Sikhs, Mrs Gandhi's bodyguard who was butchered by them, swore an oath to kill her and then enlisted and cheerfullly swore an oath to preserve her against all comers

kill order won

er what was the question?

[Peter Pedant]

TTT 15.25, if you think about it that's what is being done.  They are hiding their belief.

done a lot - see above

oh and see all the Jesuits martyred 1600-4 - Gerrard, Barlow et al - they all said they were good protestants to protestants and Roman and adherent to the doctrines of the Bishop of Rome to er ROmans.

[Peter Pedant]

oh -  converso meant they er hadnt

The terms “Marrano” and “converso” were applied in Spain and Portugal to the descendants of baptized Jews suspected of secret adherence to Judaism. Converso, from the Latin conversus, meant literally the converted.