Why Is "Gender Reassignment" Even Done On The Over Burdened N H S?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68304933

If these attention seekers want to get chopped about that's up to them but why are tax payers paying for it?

[Countrylover]

I agree Andy.

[Peter Pedant]

that this is just another pop and somebody you feel is lesser than you.

yeah agreed RH - stands high (pun intended) in the cormlessness stakes

[Peter Pedant]

did all the money the NHS spent on my knee replacement take away my pain?  No, it didn't!

oh it usually does buyt the replacement is  less mobile

67% postivie feedback for knees - unlike 95% for hips ( life changing)

[ClareTG0ld]

Part of the answer to that question, TTT, is that trans women are easier to sell as a "threat" than trans men are. So you see more stories about them.

It's notable that gender-critical rhetoric tends to dismiss trans women as, in effect, "predatory men", while it dismisses trans men as something like "confused lesbians" (in both cases wrongly, I should add). But "predatory men" are threats, and "confused lesbians" are merely victims, so which do you think is easier to write about in an alarmist tone?

The problem, then, with the cynic in you is that it doesn't go far enough.

[ToraToraTora]

barsel: "I would hope the consultants would do that. You can't just go to the doctor one day as a woman and say, 'Hi Doc, I'd like to be a man.'" - actually that is more or less what happens.

[bednobs]

i dont think that it should be provided on the NHS, nor IVF.  However, that's probably because neither affect my life in any way, and if they did i may have a different opinion

[naomi24]

ClareTG0ld, //they are currently booking appointments for people who were added to the list in May 2019 - that is, almost five years ago.//

You've neglected to mention that the hospitals were dealing with a few years of Covid in between.

[ClareTG0ld]

To that specific point, Naomi, even before the Covid pandemic the waiting list was measured in years; and you can't blame the pandemic for people in May 2019 not being seen by, say, May 2020.

It's fair to argue that the Covid pandemic made things worse, and to hope that the next year or two will see the backlog cleared, but it seems clear that this will be a slow process, so whether it's the effect of Covid or not people will certainly wait a long time for NHS treatment of any kind, let alone surgery.

 

[Old_Geezer]

Too many pages already to read through, but I see the early attempt to get away from the subject. 

 

Of course it shouldn't be paid for from the public purse.  That budget is to treat illness.

 

Those who claim they are the gender they patently aren't have the option to go seek a private surgeon who would allow them to mimic their fantasy, if they so wish.  Loans are an option.

 

No one can't live as the gender they'd prefer not to be. Learning to accept reality is the less stressful option to choose. Life is much more than what genes you opted for this time around. Much of the problem is the encouragement and enabling some in modern society bend over backwards to provide these days. Folk who brood on their disappointment of who they actually are simply feeding the very thoughts & feelings that bothers them.

[royfromaus]

Barsel

Sorry, I pressed the wrong button. 

I recently had a knee replacement. If they said to me we can either operate on you or spend the money on someone who is in danger of taking their own life if we don't carry out a gender reassignment, what do you think I would say?

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I assume you think the problems go away once gender reassignment has taken place?

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA "'You can't just go to the doctor one day as a woman and say, 'Hi Doc, I'd like to be a man.'" - actually that is more or less what happens."

What is that claim based upon?

 

[bednobs]

"No one can't live as the gender they'd prefer not to be"

i cant deal with the triple negative!

[naomi24]

ClareTG0ld, //they are currently booking appointments for people who were added to the list in May 2019 - that is, almost five years ago.//

 

Regardless of your response, you made this sound shocking - as though these people are being sidelined and neglected - but ignoring the years of the pandemic - as you did -  amounts to spin - and that isn't an honest argument.  

[pastafreak]

I think TTT should go to his doctor and say "hey doc, I want to be a woman"...and see what happens.

[naomi24]

To answer the question, the NHS should not be pandering to people's 'wants'.  No gender surgery unless medically necessary, no IVF, and no weight loss surgery.  Mental health issues should be treated as such.

[pastafreak]

Also..."The gender they'd prefer not to be"...I didn't know it was a preference

[naomi24]

There are people who take quite a long time to decide.

[Redhelen72]

What I have learnt from this thread is there is people on AB who think they know better than those that have experience it!

[youngmafbog]

I am 100% with DD.

Good BA.

Interesting how some (the usual) decided to attack the poster and his presentation rather than answer the very clear question.

[Redhelen72]

Well youngmafbog - if it was a valid question as opposed to a chance to attack 'attention seekers' then it would have gone more smoothly for the poor wee poppet