Tory Donor.

[gulliver1]

The Cons biggest donor has said that looking at Diane Abbott makes you want to hate all black women and is saying she should be shot. Frank Hester who has given the Tory party £10m ..is certainly supporting the Nasty Party then.  What a nasty person . He definitely is a Tory supporter then. 

[sp1814]

newmodarmy

 

Bit of a slippery slope that. Who would be in charge of defining what's acceptable to the Tories now?

[drmorgans]

 

I wasn't suggesting that the comments were acceptable, just that he probably wouldn't expect to be pulled up about them by the people he was addressing.

 

[nicebloke1]

12.17 And this thread appears to be your chance/additional reason, obsessive rant to beat the player's instead of playing the ball. Yes? News bulletins start no end of OPs on AB and tv chanels didn't you know? And many including MPs take advantage if it's rolls in their favour. Is there something wrong with that system? Please let me know.

[nicebloke1]

12.38, still playing that same old record in your first 2 lines, and digging that pointless hole. 

[newmodarmy]

True though nicebloke.

[nicebloke1]

Now back to the OP. Thanks.

[gulliver1]

Seems like Naomi and Prudie think this is all over now because this awfull man has apologised and it can be kicked into the long grass now ....But how different they would have thought if this had been about Labour.....You Bet.

[Prudie]

I said no such thing. I said we ALL say nasty things. Did you complain about Angel Rayner's scum comment?

"Angela Rayner has stood by her description of the Conservatives as “homophobic, racist, misogynistic … scum” after the Labour leader distanced himself from her words."

Of course you didn't. Same difference.

[naomi24]

I said no such thing either.

[gulliver1]

Prudie 13,24 But she wasn't far wrong though was she.

But at least she didn't say they should be shot.

[sp1814]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[gulliver1]

M/s Abbot released a statement  today saying "I am a single woman and that makes me vulnerable anyway but to hear someone talking like this is very worrying"I live in Hackney, I don't drive and use the local bus service or even walk to places more than most MPs.The fact that two MPs have been murdered in recent years makes talk like this more alarming.

[Prudie]

What is the point of discussing anything on here when views that don't match the tory bashing are just rudely dismissed with a single wiki link? My own fault for even considering joining in with one of gulliver's threads. Lesson learned.

[retrocop]

Any worries Abbot has about walking through Hackney are of her own making. It's a cess pit ,so much so,that this champagne socialist sent her errant son James to a top city private school after deriding her fellow Labour hypocrites for sending their kids to private school. Her indensible defense was she didn't want her son to get into a gang cultcha. Under her watch as MP for Haringey and shadow Home Secretary you would think she would of had a minimum of competence to eradicate such cultures in Haringey.For all her efforts her son James is a crystal meth  addict with a long rap list for violence particularly nurses and other enmergency workers and her London Borough is still a cess pit. If she is too scared to walk through it then I have no sympathy for her.

[sp1814]

Prudie

In a discussion/ argument you should be free to say whatever you want to support your point - but whataboutery is a real thing and it stifles debate.

Incidentally - we don't ALL say nasty things.

I've not even come close to saying someone I don't agree with politically should be shot.

For context - this is what he said:

It's like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you're just like I hate, you just want to hate all black women because she's there, and I don't hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.

if anyone I know said that about white people, Jews or women I'd dump them as a friend and delete their number from my phone.

We absolute do not all say nasty things.

Some of us were brought up well.

[Atheist]

sp; Speech marks would have helped.

 

[nicebloke1]

Amazing how quick Sunak set the stage outside number 10 to condem Gerorge Galloway, ( and before you get your stick out to beat me) :0) rightly so. Maybe he should now consider doing the same. Better late than never, but I very much doubt that, there's more millions on there way I would think.

Instigating such action reminds me of Trump, trying to cause an event or situation to happen. He should have been arrested and put in a cell untill charges had been bought. Joe bloggs wouldn' t have stood a chance.

Its also interesting just how many of these con crooks have so many conections with health businesses, direct or indirect, but it appears all roads lead to the NHS sooner or later. They really do know where the money pot is don't they.

[sp1814]

retrocop

whatever your opinion is of Dianne Abbott (and I agree she's a hypocrite for sending her son to a private school - massively two-faced), it DOES NOT excuse this kind of talk.

You 100% should be able to criticise Abbott (as you have here), but when you say she should be shot...

[sp1814]

Athiest

You're 100% correct.

Isee it now!

 

to clarify - speech marks should start on "It's" and end on "shot".

[webbo3]

Ms Abbott also said these things.

The British invented racism.

White people live playing divide and rule

Suggested London taxi drivers are racist.

 Ms Abbott reportedly said staff at her local east London hospital who were "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" were not suitable to be nurses because they had "never met a black person before".