Plod And The C P S Think He Did It.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-68781650

They have also arrested 4 other men for assisting. Take your pardners for the usual dance. 💃🕺

[Peter Pedant]

loosen your partner and send them back to their seats

they arrested four men on suspicion of assisting an offender. I will now make this  more portentous in the standard TTT fashion boo boo shang a lang. fiddle faddle foo !

suspicion is as we already know, or should know ( boop! boop!) is  " anything not fanciful."

(Old accessory after the  fact. Max sentence in murder used to be - the Hangman!) This can be a big deal.

[youngmafbog]

Need to let the law to run its course now.

As for the three arrests that is all they are at present, no charges as yet so have to wait and see.

[andy-hughes]

It's not a 'dance', it's a tragedy.

I am sure in the interests of balance, naomi will be along shortly to give you a stiffly-worded lecture. 

[Peter Pedant]

hold out your hand you naughty boy and take your poonie like a fella

[ynnafymmi]

Havent we enough murderous nut-jobs already in the UK without importing more from abroad?So he was"studying"over here in the UK and he brought his wife over with him.Was he and his wife ever intending to go back to Pakistan?

[andy-hughes]

How can anyone on here answer that?

[davebro3]

I can:

Yes we have enough.

No they wouldn't return to Pakistan. (maybe he will if he gets deported after serving his 20 years - but it's unlikely)

[andy-hughes]

dave - // I can:

No they wouldn't return to Pakistan. (maybe he will if he gets deported after serving his 20 years - but it's unlikely) //

But that's just your susposition, it's not a definitive answer, because no-one on here knows what the couple may or may not have done, or do in the future.

[davebro3]

I am absolutely certain & stand by my answer. So there!

[ynnafymmi]

I stand by Daves answer to my post Andy.These people would never return to Pakistan/Bangladesh voluntarily.No way.Go from a first world country to a failed sheesh-hole state.Nah.

[andy-hughes]

Ynaf - // I stand by Daves answer to my post Andy.These people would never return to Pakistan/Bangladesh voluntarily.No way.Go from a first world country to a failed sheesh-hole state.Nah. //

You, and Dave, are probably right.

But an answer offered as a view, and an answer offered as a fact, are two different things.

I have no problem with the view that the couple would not have returned to Pakistan, it's a view I share.

But it can't be stated as a fact, because we don't know for sure what they may have done, or may do in the future.

I really hope I am not falling down the same rabbit hole as with my lengthy argument with TTT on another thread.

When my pointing out that supposition and fact are not the same thing, led to an exchange that went on for days.

[douglas9401]

It takes two baby, it takes two ooh ooh ooh...

[davebro3]

yes, A-H always tries to have the last word!

[ynnafymmi]

Nah,Andy,you are wrong, me and Dave are right.Once these people get to the UK they arent going to leave.

[andy-hughes]

ynna - // Nah,Andy,you are wrong, me and Dave are right.Once these people get to the UK they arent going to leave. //

I suggest you are not reading my posts closely enough - please read my post at 09:50 -

// You, and Dave, are probably right.

But an answer offered as a view, and an answer offered as a fact, are two different things.

I have no problem with the view that the couple would not have returned to Pakistan, it's a view I share. //.

[davebro3]

see🙄

[ToraToraTora]

AH is as usual playing sementics, yes it is theoretically possible that :

a) He didn't do it

b) He's not a muslim

c) He + family would definitately not be staying in the UK as long as they could.

In reality we know that all 3 are extremely unlikely.

[ynnafymmi]

Can i return to my original posting Andy-"havent we have enough murderous nut-jobs in the UK already without importing more from abroad"?

[andy-hughes]

ynnaf - // Can i return to my original posting Andy-"havent we have enough murderous nut-jobs in the UK already without importing more from abroad"? //

By all means.

I can't think that anyone could find an argument against that viewpoint.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - //

AH is as usual playing sementics, yes it is theoretically possible that :

a) He didn't do it

b) He's not a muslim

c) He + family would definitately not be staying in the UK as long as they could.

In reality we know that all 3 are extremely unlikely. //

I'm not 'playing semantics' - which is the science of meaning and its interpretations.

I am stating that there is a fundamental difference between offering a statement of possiblity -

'The man may be a Muslim, we don't actually know if he is or not, but it is likely, on evidence, that he is.'

and a statement of fact -

'The man is a Muslim'.

Now I am happy to go with the first, but from the opening of your contribution, you stated the first.

I said then, and say now - a supposition is just that, it is not a fact.