Is Farage Frit?

[sandyRoe]

There is a tide in the affairs of men. Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune.

Should Farage throw his hat into the ring and run for a seat in parliament?

He'll never have a better chance.

What say you?

[ToraToraTora]

09:45 was to 09:42

[ichkeria]

" that's exactly what it is, getting done what you wanted done. No other politician in history has done that 100%. none."

But he didn't "do" it. Any more than I played for my winning team :-)

[Hymie]

The idiot Farage, is also a cheerleader for Trump (attending a number of his rallies in the USA), this alone should cause anyone believing in Farage, pause for thought.

[ToraToraTora]

09:50 of course he did, he forced a referendum and won it.

[youngmafbog]

//The idiot Farage//

From you that is hillarious.

Tell us what you have done for your country other than whine and chomp sour grapes.

[Khandro]

"

LONDON, May 23 (Reuters) - Britain's Nigel Farage, a leading Brexit campaigner and the honorary president of the right wing Reform Party, said on Thursday that he would not stand in the July general election.

"I will do my bit to help in the campaign (for Reform), but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that," Farage said in a statement on X.

"The choice between Labour and the Conservatives is uninspiring, and only Reform have the radical agenda that is needed to end decline in this country." "

[naomi24]

I think the only reason Farage failed to win a seat in the wake of the Brexit referendum  was because he wasn't standing on a Conservative ticket.  For fear of getting something they really don't want, in General Elections people tend to play it 'safe' and vote for one or other of the big parties.  

[Hymie]

Brexit (for which Farage was a notable champion) has already inflicted more economic damage on the UK than the covid pandemic did – and people still believe in this idiot.

[ToraToraTora]

You've been listening to your anti British chum Phil again me old china!

[naomi24]

Are all who disagree with you in your real world idiots too, hymie?  You're wearing that word out.

[Stableford]

All Reform & Farage will achieve at this election is giving Keir the keys to no.10.  Is that success?!

[naomi24]

That's  true, stableford.  A vote for something different is tempting - I'm out of love with this government - but the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.  I think many Conservative voters are in a similar quandary.  

[Stableford]

Same, Naomi.  Like the USA, it's the lesser of the two "evils".  But I do know what happens when Labour governments get in.  

[New Judge]

“It may have turned out differently though probably not.”

I don’t think it would, Tora.

If you read the musings of the EU’s most rabidly federalist “founding father”, Jean Monnet, its aims were clear from the beginning. In 1955 Monnet founded the “Action Committee for the United States of Europe.” Everything from that moment on was directed towards establishing a European Federal State. Nothing has detracted those who followed that path. Each successive Treaty has been to take Europe in only one direction. The Euromaniacs tried to impose a “Constitution for Europe” on its members in 2005. Of course people in the UK were not given a vote on whether their government should cede its sovereignty to a foreign power. But in two countries where they were, referedums kicked the Constituion into touch. France rejected the idea by 55:45 and the Dutch by 61:39. A period of "reflection" followed. (For that, read "a period where the Euromaniacs plotted a course which would enable them to ignore the decision of the electorates of two of the most prominent members of the EU"). Undeterred, the “Constitution” was hastily revised (principally by changing its title) and thus the Lisbon Treaty was born, further reinforcing the Maastricht Treaty’s principle aim - to oversee the economic and political integration of EU members.

I have often thought how the EU might have developed with different leaders in power in the UK. But when I have seen what has happened in the past to recalcitrant member nations, I have come to the conclusion that none would have been able to prevent this march towards federal integration. The die for Brexit was cast long, long before Mr Cameron called the referendum.

“Farage has stood in UK parliamentary elections seven times, winning zero times – some success.”

He succeeded in ensuring the UK was disentangled from the unholy political, fiscal and societal mess that the EU has become. He demonstrated that power does not ultimately rest with MPs. It rests with the electorate. In the 2015 GE, UKIP polled more votes than the LibDems and SNP combined, with 12.6% of the vote. Because of FPTP, they gained no seats whereas the other two won 64 between them. But the pressure brought to bear by Mr Farage’s UKIP on Mr Cameron prior to 2015 was so great that he had to pledge an in/out referendum as part of the Tory manifesto. That is the power that Mr Farage and UKIP wielded. 

Make no mistake: the referendum would not have been held – let alone resulting in a vote to leave – were it not for the “unsuccessful” Mr Farage. This country could do with a few more failures like him in government. The only trouble is that once there, they get nobbled by “The Blob”. Thankfully Mr Farage never suffered that ignominy.

[ToraToraTora]

judge: //"Farage has stood in UK parliamentary elections seven times, winning zero times – some success.”

He succeeded in ensuring the UK was disentangled from the unholy political, fiscal and societal mess that the EU has become. He demonstrated that power does not ultimately rest with MPs. It rests with the electorate.// - bang on shame so many on here seem unable to grasp that.

[Peter Pedant]

flood of sewage - God a bit of Julius Caesar ( there is a bitta latin on another thread) by Shakey. well done. that wont last.

[ToraToraTora]

judge: "In the 2015 GE, UKIP polled more votes than the LibDems and SNP combined, with 12.6% of the vote. Because of FPTP, they gained no seats whereas the other two won 64 between them. But the pressure brought to bear by Mr Farage’s UKIP on Mr Cameron prior to 2015 was so great that he had to pledge an in/out referendum as part of the Tory manifesto. That is the power that Mr Farage and UKIP wielded. " - yep bang on again.

[Khandro]

^^ Well said !

[Khandro]

^^ That was for NJ

[Peter Pedant]

bang on shame so many on here seem unable to grasp that.

you mean that the electorate are fools? and frankly if you had anything to do with it - it wd be someone else