If An Ordinary American Citizen Faced Sentencing After Being Convicted...

[sandyRoe]

...of crimes similar to those Trump was convicted of what would be the range of punishments they faced?

[Old_Geezer]

Presumably the same range as Trump faces.

[bednobs]

according to BBC there is a range from community service, fines, up to four yearsin prison for each guilty verdict.

 

 

[Hymie]

Apparently each of those 34 convictions carries a maximum 4 year prison sentence; but commentators have said that as a first offence (and a white collar, non-violent crime), plus Trump’s age – someone else might get away without jail time.

 

If I were the judge, I’d jail Trump for 4 years (with all running concurrently).

I think he will be jailed (at sentencing on 11 July), due to his total contempt for the entire legal system/process [breaking the gag-orders (10 times), attacking the judge and prosecutors – claiming the whole thing is a witch-hunt, and those prosecuting him are very bad people, and that he has done nothing wrong].

Normally a judge would be looking for contrition from a convicted criminal (not total defiance).

[douglas9401]

He could yet cheat justice by having a massive stroke saving any further expense and indulgence for and from the powers that be.

That would also clear the way for a memorial golf tournament, The MAGA, to be played on a crazy golf course allowing further tilting at windmills.

[davebro3]

big fine - end of...

[sandyRoe]

Some just don't know when it's time to leave the stage.

A stroke would have allowed his followers to see him as a martyr, hounded to an early death by the  liberal establishment.

[Mozz71]

I reckon house arrest is a quite possible outcome (poor Melania). It will be interesting to see if he treats house arrest with a similar lack of respect as he did the gagging order he repeatedly flaunted.

[sp1814]

My money is on a fine - no way is Trump going to be jailed. The logistics are a brain-scrambler...as ex-President, he has a Secret Service detail so they would have to spend time in jail too. And it's unlikely they would give up their arms (and firearms aren't allowed in jail).

But if he *did* get a custodial sentence, there are a number of closed prisons which could re-open - just for Trump.

 

But the logistics of a President who is also a convicted felon are a real brain-scrambler. Let's assume he wins in November...will he be free to travel to countries who ban convicted felons from entering?

[Mozz71]

He's still got other trials to come hasn't he? The one for incitement to riot for the Capitol Building attack is next up isn't it?

[Old_Geezer]

The US has so few bad guys they can afford to mothball gaols ?!? Perhaps they can lend us the use of some. Either for our criminals, or maybe simply as a camp for illegal immigrants while their application is processed/denied.

[Old_Geezer]

He'd likely have diplomatic immunity arranged. But in any case, he can probably visit many events remotely via the Internet. Need to ensure total security though.

[andy-hughes]

I think a fine is the most likely sentence.

Not because it's Trump, but because the nature of the crime does not merit a custodial sentence.

This was originally a 'misdemeaour' until it got hiked up to a 'felony' in order to batter Trump with it.

He will pay the fine, and continue to bleat about how wrong it all was, until he is elected, and then he will pardon himself.

[Gromit]

Why is the electric chair not an option?

[youngmafbog]

It is for you if you want it GRomit.  Just hop on and I'm sure someone will pull the switch.

There is always one 🙄

[youngmafbog]

sandyRoe, an ordinalry citizen would not have had the trial in the first palce, it would have been deemed not in the Public interest.

 

 

[Ellipsis]

It was a felony, and who knows what would have happened in the 2016 United States presidential election if that information had not been suppressed in that way.  It was a very tight election already.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c288wpj1glyo

To convict Trump, the jury had to be certain he falsified his business records, and that he did so intending to conceal or commit a second crime.

The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office’s case went like this: With Trump’s approval, his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, paid adult film star Stormy Daniels $130,000 to stay silent about an alleged sexual encounter so as not to derail Trump’s 2016 campaign. Trump then approved a fraudulent scheme to disguise the reimbursement to Cohen as legal expenses to hide the hush money.

In doing so, he ran afoul of election rules, prosecutors said, which amounted to “election fraud, pure and simple.”

[ladybirder]

Don't forget they are very very very bad people prosecuting him!

[sp1814]

Andy

whilst for most felons it'd be unlikely that jail time would be the likely outcome, with Trump you have aggravating considerations - his constant breaking of gag orders and attacks on the judge. It's feasible (although very unlikely) that he could get jail time because he's shown disrespect for the legal process and is clearly unrepentant.

[sp1814]

"an ordinalry citizen would not have had the trial in the first palce, it would have been deemed not in the Public interest."

!!!!!
 

"¯\_(ツ)_/¯ " 

 

[Paul22118]

I think it won't matter the sentence.  He has already appealed and because of the levels of appeal in the US he will get the lawyers to stretch the process out so far and for so long a time - by the time it is finalised he will have served another four years as President, retired and died.  It is all academic, as he is well aware.