Farage, Not A Man You Could Trust?

[sandyRoe]

He made an informal pact with the Traditional Unionist Voice party but now is endorsing members of the DUP.

If a politician isn't as good as his word, what is he good for?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c988p1xz2qdo.amp

[Stableford]

Isn't it interesting, all the lefties telling us to ignore Farage.  Anyone would think they're afraid of something... :)   And these guys would tell us to trust the likes of Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner- you couldn't make it up.

[naomi24]

Strong people scare them, stapleford.  

[Stableford]

So it seems!

[Hymie]

Farage is demonstrably an idiot, and people still believe what he says – maybe we need electors to pass some cognitive test before they can vote.

[naomi24]

So many idiots disagree with you, Hymie.

[ToraToraTora]

The most successful politician in history is an "idot" because he doesn't agree with hymie! Right oh!

[Hymie]

That indeed would appear to be so.

[Untitled]

have any of farage's fans figured out what his connection is to clacton yet? or why he's standing for a place he doesn't live in and also doesn't like?

[naomi24]

To you perhaps, Hymie.  To me your constant referral to those who clearly aren't idiots as 'idiots' indicates a severe limitation in your vocabulary.

[ToraToraTora]

10:58 no more than most standing in any seat anywhere have a connection. The main point about Clacton is that it has the highest percentage of Brexit voters in any seat.

[naomi24]

untitled, change the record.  There's little point in him house-hunting until he can be sure of the seat.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

It's down to the people of Clacton whether they want him or not- so many MP's don't live in their constituencies, prior to elections.  Do you think that Keir Starmer was born and bred in Holborn & St Pancras?  Erm no, he was parachuted in there, same as most candidates.

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, "The main point about Clacton is that it has the highest percentage of Brexit voters in any seat."

Boston and Skegness had the highest percentage of Brexit voters at 75.65%, Clacton at 73.04% was the second highest. 

[Untitled]

but that's the point. Farage pretends to be different but he isn't. he's just another careerist like so many other MPs. he's standing in clacton because he fancies a seat in parliament, not because he wishes to stand up for his community. 

and why is it that Farage won't stand in a place where he actually lives? the answer is because they wouldn't vote for him. why might that be? why is it that people who actually live in the same place as Farage don't want to be represented by him?

i don't care where an MP is born or grew up but i do think "parachuting" is a repulsive practice. if i were in charge i would ban it. if you wish to represent an area then you should live in it and you should be accountable to the people who live there. politicians should have a connection with the place they seek election... if they don't then they are just standing for the sake of getting a seat and advancing their political career. it is disgusting.

[naomi24]

In your world, untitled, there would be no hope for an area that didn't produce a qualified candidate.  Yours is a very naive point of view.

[Untitled]

the qualifications for being an MP are here

https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/

i think every constituency as plenty of people who fit the bill

it is not "naive" to expect people who represent an area to live in it. it is a basic principle of representative democracy... i.e. that communities choose somebody from among themselves to represent them rather than have a candidate forced upon them.

farage says he different but he isn't. he does not give a fig about clacton. if the polling was better somewhere else then he would stand there. what he wants is to be an MP and then go swanning around on television. he's not there because he wants to represent clacton. he doesn't even like it.

[naomi24]

//it is not "naive" to expect people who represent an area to live in it.//

 

I know what you mean, untitled.  I've always thought the players in sports teams should come from the area the team represents - no buying and selling across town/county/international borders - no one playing for the town 20 miles away or for a foreign country - a bit like school teams where all the players attend the school they're representing.  But that's not what happens and I fear you're running ahead of yourself again.   Farage doesn't represent Clacton.  If he ever does, he'll probably go house-hunting.

[New Judge]

What on Earth makes you think that any politician is "as good as their word"?

[Gromit]

// if the polling was better somewhere else then he would stand there. what he wants is to be an MP and then go swanning around on television. //

You make an assumption that Farage wants to win the seat. Perhaps he doesn't which is why he chose it. The Conservatives have nearly a 25,000 majority. There are over a hundred seats with a smaller, more winnable majority. Why didn't he go for one of those?

The answer is that he wanted to take part in the televised debates. He has other plans for the rest of the year, the US and his media work, and being an MP will severely hamper that. If he fails to win the seat, he won't be much bothered.

[Gromit]

// A Donald Trump fundraiser in London, where his eldest son will be the star guest, has already clocked up $2m (£1.57m) in donations before it takes place on Tuesday, according to organisers.  
The event is being hosted by the actor and singer Holly Valance, who has become an increasingly influential figure on Britain’s radical right since meeting the former president in the US in the company of Nigel Farage.

Farage will take a break from campaigning in the general election to attend the event along with American Republicans, including people who served in the last Trump White House and some tipped for roles if he wins again. //