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gulliver1 | 15:10 Sat 15th Jun 2024 | News
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Lord Cameron has accused Nigel Farage of trying to destroy the Conservative party by standing for Reform .Cameron also says he does not want to see any Reform MPs in the Commons and wants to see the Conservative party to move forward and win the election .I bet you do Mr Cameron but you can't just get your own way like that. Any one agree with him.

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gramps85gulliver has as much right to "snipe" and put forward his point of view as you do to moan about it. go elsewhere if you find this uncomfortable. 
17:07 Sat 15th Jun 2024
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Well Cameron won't have a problem seeing reform MPs in the commons because he ain't even an MP himself.

What do you expect Cameron to say ?  
Of course he is going to say he wants the Conservatives to win against any/all the other parties. It would be extraordinary if he said anything else.

Third time of asking.

Gulliver.  You must really hate this country.  First you leave to move onto somewhere new, which is your decision, but after leaving you take every opportunity to denegrate this country and its achievements, and everything it gave to you.  Secondly you deride everybody who dared to vote for leaving your beloved EU. And thirdly while not even living in this country (purpotedly), you want to see us saddle with a left wing Government run by the most two uncharasmatic persons in Starmer and Rayner, who has ever entered politics.

It was you decision, for what ever reason to leave this country, but at least have the decency to allow us to get on with our lives in OUR country without forever sniping about it.

 

Why does Starmer and Rayner lacking charisma have any bearing on their competence (or otherwise) as a politician?

 

Charismatic according to the OED:

What does charismatic mean? Charismatic is used to describe people who have an outgoing, energetic, and likable personality that seems to naturally draw other people to them. Charismatic is the adjective form of the noun charisma, which refers to the magnetic and charming personal quality that draws people to someone.

 

Lord Cameron is bound to spout the party line, bur given his own ignominious exit after the hubris of Brexit, I doubt his words carry any weight.

Wasn't Boris thought to have been charismatic?

I couldn't see it myself.

Maybe it's time now for dull and dependable.

We've dull aplenty - but dependable?  Who would that be, sandyRoe?

Naomi24,

Sir Kerr and Angela will soon be guiding the ship of state towards calmer waters.

'Steady as she goes', will be their watchword.

sandyRoe, such a wag!  😂

gramps85

gulliver has as much right to "snipe" and put forward his point of view as you do to moan about it. go elsewhere if you find this uncomfortable. 

Tarzan was saying similarly last night, he & Camoron* were both keen remainers, & hated Nigel.                                  Tarzan owns a huge area of land which he calls an 'arboretum' (in other words it has trees on it!) and he was claiming a nice subsidy from the EU.

 

* that was a typo, but I quite like it 😄

"Sir Kerr and Angela will soon be guiding the ship of state towards calmer waters."

 

that's given me the best laugh of the weekend.

I wonder if Dave will devote as much energy and attention to detail as he did back before the Great Shambles, thereby allowing the opposite of what his wishes might be to come to pass.

Cameron was anti-Brexit.He made a massive mistake calling a referendum.When the Labour Party chose Ed Milliband rather than his more abler brother that was the end of Britain.

Cameron's mistake was not calling the referendum, that was a brilliant idea.

His mistake was his arrogance in assuming that the electorate  wanted to remain shackled to a bunch of arrogant money-grabbing unelected suits imposing their will on us.

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Is this the same David Cameron that said "We are all in this together and I will cut immigration by tens of thousands" Another Tory liar ..So they gave him a peerage for that. They just can't help it can they.

gulliver - // Is this the same David Cameron that said "We are all in this together and I will cut immigration by tens of thousands" Another Tory liar ..So they gave him a peerage for that. They just can't help it can they. //

They gave Cameron a peerage so he could join the government as Foreign Secretary.

You might wonder how anyone who can so comprehensively misjudge the opinions of the nation he was suppose to govern, and who then walked away to the lucrative speech circuit, could be deemed suitable to deal with the UK's friends and ememies abroad is a question the Tories prefer not to ask.

Probably because, like said nation, they already know the answer, and prefer not to actually think about it.

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Andy Hughes .Is this the same David Cameron that said we are all in this together, Whilst quietly trousering £8.2 million through Lobbying for Greensill.

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Untitled 17.07 for Best Answer..... by far.

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