U S Presidential Election

[naomi24]

Any predictions on the result?  

[ynnafymmi]

Thanks for your support by the way Togo.Much appreciated.X

[THECORBYLOON]

If you want to report me, crack on.

[ynnafymmi]

Whats the point?Are you a mod or not.Who,s side do you think the AB Editor would take?Nae mine thats for sure.

[New Judge]

"yes"

At last we've got there.

I imagine around 60m Americans will vote for Mr Trump. Your contention that they are all "religious loons, neonazis and white supremacists"  is plainly absurd and it has no foundation in fact. What you are saying is that those 60m people are all wrong and you are right. In fact none of you is either right or wrong; it's simply that they have different opinions and views to you. But you seem completely and utterly unable to accommodate that. I quote:

"if someone votes for trump they are either uninformed to the point of absurdity or they are a horrible person."

[ToraToraTora]

Ironic that untitled displays a neo fascist intolerance to those that have a different views.

[tomus42]

Trump is already laying the groundwork for another steal attempt by talking about massive fraud going on.

He knows he can't win legitimately.

[ToraToraTora]

sounds like you are already prepping too me old china!

[JDavis]

This 'different views' idea is nonsense. It's OK then to vote for an insurrectionist who attempted to cling on to power by violence if that's cancelled out by his other 'qualities'?  And he's on record pleading with Georgia's Republican secretary of state to find some extra votes, ie cheat, in the last election. 

Forgive me if I've misunderstood but didn't the Nazis in WW2 also hold different opinions

[Clone]

He knows he can't win legitimately.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

 

My thoughts and prayers at this difficult time, tomus. 

[Untitled]

i'm sorry but yes. i have lots of americans in my life who i love. they do live in a country that has tens of millions of people in it who are quite simply rotten. there are lots of reasons for that - some are racist, some have had difficult and unpleasant lives, some are beholden to religion and yes quite a lot of americans hold to extreme ideologies imcluding neonazism. there is not a trump voter alive who doesn't know about january 6 or the party's assault on women's rights or the exterminationist rhetoric about trans people or the racism that comes from the trump campaign or the frankly enormous number of nazi militias that mysteriously turn up to all his events. if they still vote for him then they are either in agreement with those things or they don't care. 
 

tens of millions of germans supported the nazis. they looked at the nuremburg laws, kristallnacht, exterminating the disabled and locking up communists and thought "yep, that's fine by me". it was a reprehensible decision by a sick and damaged proportion of society. i think that such a constituency exists in the USA and i base my view on my contact with that country and with simply observing basic facts about the trump movement. i don't care if you find it crass.

[Spungle]

Brilliant, the childless cat ladies won't be happy, but for normal Americans living paycheck to paycheck under the failed Biden Harris regime, this is the dawn of a new day.  Congratulations, Donald J.Trump, 47th President of the USA.

[Khandro]

Trump wins fair & square. Great relief that Harris loses, she would have been a real disaster.

First job for Kier Starmer is to replace David Lamy, - oh boy! 

[ynnafymmi]

There could be an awkward telephone call between Starmer and Trump coming up shortly.What with the Labour Party sending activists over to the USA to campaign for Harris.

[10ClarionSt]

I said on here last week that Trump would win because I didn't think America would want a female President. However, during the campaigning, Trump said that people in Pennsylvania were eating their pets, and yet it seems the people of Pennsylvania voted for him. Mmmm. 😱 

[Stableford]

All over bar the pink-hatted cat ladies weeping.

[Deskdiary]

Tomus at 8.59pm yesterday.

 

Oops.

[New Judge]

“As the OP notes "uninformed" was in my original assertion.”

I hate to labour the point but it wasn’t. “Uninformed” did not rear its head until much later.

Initially you said “the trump "movement" seems to consistent of pizzagate people, qanon, religious loons, neonazis and white supremacists.  more like a giant bowel movement in my opinion. america at its worst.”

I suggested that it seems somewhat crass to suggest they are all religious loons, neonazis and white supremacists to which you replied “sometimes reality is crass.”

I was still perplexed: “Help me understand your thinking: are you labelling anybody who votes for Trump (i.e. c.50% of the US electorate) potentially as "religious loons, neonazis and white supremacists." Your reply was “Yes”.

Only in your next reply did “uninformed” enter the equation: “if someone votes for trump they are either uninformed to the point of absurdity or they are a horrible person.”

It is my view, from those exchanges, that you introduced “uninformed” as an afterthought because the only absurdity was your contention “…i consider all of the 75 million people who voted in favour of trump to be one of those descriptors.”

“ i explained why on the original thread.”

You did nothing of the sort. You kindly explained what a neonazi is, but did nothing to explain how there are, according to you, large numbers of them among the 75m people who all voted for the same candidate. You explained that many of them attended political meetings. But you didn’t explain how everybody who voted suffered from one of the descriptors you mentioned. It’s like holding that because all peas are green it follows that everything that’s green is a pea. It’s nonsense.

I will finish on this then I’m done: I’ve been watching the coverage from the US this afternoon and their were interviews with many “ordinary” people. One was a chef. He’s migrated to the USA from Honduras in the 1990s. He clearly wasn’t racists and understood why large numbers of people are trying to cross the border. He didn’t seem to display any Nazi characteristics and he did not utter anything that made him seem like a white supremacist. He was just an ordinary guy, trying to make his way and earn a living doing an ordinary job. He was asked why he voted for Trump and he replied that he did so because he thought that he was the best hope of seeing improvements in the country in future and was the best for him and his family and everybody in the USA. 

Your idea that all those who voted from Mr Trump are either neo-Nazis, religious zealots or white supremacists is utterly, utterly absurd.

[ynnafymmi]

@15.51.Best post i have read on this issue,NJ.BA,Naomi?

[Khandro]

'It is impossible to overstate the importance of Donald Trump’s triumph. Israel, for one, will be heaving a mighty sigh of relief. Iran’s ayatollahs will be shaking in their boots. One wag posted a video online of the mandarins at the United Nations running around in a panic shredding all their documents. The transgender madness will rapidly disappear and girls will be free to go into their own changing rooms without fear of being confronted by a biological male. Watch as climate change withers as the great doomsday cult of our times and the myth of renewables collapses with a long fart like a limp balloon'

The Spectator Australia (with typical ozzi chutzpah !)

[naomi24]

Ynnafymmi, your wish is my command.  😁