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Kent Bank robbery
Does anyone agree with me that to some extent the robbers should somehow be admired for actually having the guts to carry out a crime like this. How incredible would it have been if they were never caught.
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I'm sure that the depot manager and his family who were held at gunpoint and who are still emotionally disturbed by their treatment will be delighted to hear of your admiration for the people who subjected them to such an ordeal.
What next? Your admiration for Harold Shipman for dispatching so many people so quickly and painlessly?
What next? Your admiration for Harold Shipman for dispatching so many people so quickly and painlessly?
You can ADMIRE what someone does without LIKING what they did.
While it was an awful ordeal for the people involved, the robbery did take a lot of planning.
Other people who did terrible things are also admired.
Someone like Adolf Hitler rose up from nothing to be elected as leader of Germany (he was democratically elected) and he then galvanized the German people enough for them follow him and to go to war with almost the whole of Europe.
This was quite a feat.
You can admire what he did, but it does not mean you have to like it.
vehelpfulguy, you might also need to read some history. Hitler was elected by fear of reprisals, and by cheating the system. He played the nationalism card well, but that was not difficult. The myth that he was a good economic steward is precisely that, a myth. WW2 was a war waiting to happen after the finalisation of WW1. The only good thing about Hitler was that he was such a lunatic that he lost the war through egotistical stupidity.
I cannot admire the robbers as they obvious have certain very good skills that could be used in society, but they chose to break the law instead. I admire people with skills who use them legally and for the benefit of others.
Mxfan - I know where you're coming from when you ask whether to some extent they should be admired, and I assume you don't think of them as modern day Robin Hoods...but I really believe that what they did involved an element of violence...threatened violence.
...and this is what, for me, makes them scum. It's not like the clever heists you may have seen in 'Mission Impossible' or the (excellent) remake of 'The Thomas Crown Affair'.
At some point, you had people going about their day to day business who had shotguns pointed at their faces.
Absolutely without a shadow of a doubt...unadmirable.
I'm pretty sure that 'unadmirable' isn't a real word, but you see what I'm getting at.
To admire. Definition: to regard with wonder; to look with pleasure on; to have a high opinion of.
In my opinion, for what it�s worth, anybody who "admires" a gang of people who kidnapped, terrorised and traumatised a group of innocent people - including an eight year old boy � who were simply going about their daily business, needs to examine themselves very carefully.
Yes, it was a well planned and executed job (though it�s looking increasingly likely that it was not quite clever enough � time will tell). mxfan suggested that it was the people who should be admired. vhelpfulguy takes the question a little further and suggests that you can admire what was done without liking it. Reasonable people should do neither. The crime was a despicable act, carried out with no regard for the welfare and safety of anybody else. And it was carried out simply to satisfy the greed of a bunch of thugs.
Apart from the most important aspect � that of the physical and mental effects on the people directly concerned � the loss of the cash will be borne by somebody, probably taxpayers or insurance premium payers. To somehow suggest that this is a victimless crime (in terms of the cash lost) is na�ve in the extreme.
As for randomsasha�s contention that they did not behave too badly because they did not shoot anybody!!! I�m speechless!
Strange as it is, I think that Mxfan's admiration is not unusual. There is certainly a propensity in this country to admire criminals and thugs that perplexes me. I meet seemingly well-balanced people who regard people like the Krays and Frankie Fraser as folk heroes rather than the nasty, bullying, sadistic thugs that they were. It completely baffles me as to why.
And Vhelpfulguy, Hitler wasn't elected as Chancellor, he was chosen by President Hindenberg after the resignation of two previous chancellors. He never won a majority vote and the evidence was that the Nazi party was in decline when he eventually grabbed power.
And Vhelpfulguy, Hitler wasn't elected as Chancellor, he was chosen by President Hindenberg after the resignation of two previous chancellors. He never won a majority vote and the evidence was that the Nazi party was in decline when he eventually grabbed power.
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