Is GOD on Tony Blairs side?

[Brando_#1]

I just want to know what people think of what Tony Blair said on Parkinson. Roughly translated God told him to go to war. Do you think that he is right? Do you think that he has a massive ego? Do you think he should bring religion into this? Do you think he is unstoppable? Do you think he has created himself into a presidential figure? Do you think he has an inch of guilt in he's body?

[Loosehead]

No,yes,no,no,yes,no

[kipchik]

I believe he done what HE wanted,and because of all the uproar since, he is taking Bush's way out and passing the buck on to GOD,and seeing that as GOD isn't here to speak up for himself,it tells me Blair is just plain CUCKOO!!!As for guilt HE couldn't spell it let alone FEEL it!

[johnlambert]

Would it be ok if God told him to kill his hideous wife? No, that would be illegal, just like the war in Iraq

[Dom Tuk]

hey Tony, heard of Charles Darwin??

[ludwig]

I don't think he actually said god was on his side or god told him to do it or he prayed and got god's approval.
I can't quote it exactly, but he said something like 'If you're a religious person you pray about these things to help make the decision, and you have to live with your conscience afterwards'.
That could mean anything..it could mean 'I prayed and asked god if it was ok, and god said no, but I went ahead with it anyway because I thought it was my duty'.

I could be wrong, perhaps someone will produce the exact quotation. I still think Blair's a n0b by the way.

[noxlumos]

Is it just me God's ignoring here, because he's never told me to do anything. When I was a lad I was a devout Roman Catholic, always at Mass and at confession and he still never said a damned word to me.

I have lived more since and with that life slipped my faith so I now find myself a sort of borderline atheist/agnostic but it scares the living hell out of me that the leader of a country, THIS country particularly, is hearing voices in his head and acting upon them.You expect it of the Americans but not here. I think the time has come for him to have the decency to admit the errors he has made, particularly about Iraq and then step down so that someone less mentally ill and less smug can take proper control over this country.I think he is stoppable at this point but certain bills presently going through parliament give us a very small window to get him out before he becomes nigh on omnipotent and since he has no conscience we need him out and we need him out now.

[bill barlow]

Ludwig, I think all he actually said was that God would judge him. I hate sticking up for the lying two faced conceited moran, but that is all he said.

[stevie_c2it]

If Tony thinks that only God is his judge, it just goes to show he has never posted on Answerbank at 2am on a Saturday morning, and then read the replies while sober on Sunday morning!

[sp1814]

Tony Blair is our saviour - imagine where we'd be if William Hague, Ian Duncan Smith or Michael Howard had been leading us over the past decade. Tory party? The only thing they're good at is sleaze (real sleaze, week in week out for five years remember), sex scandal and criminally - economic incompetance.

God bless Tony. He's a hero for us all.

[Kathyan]

Tony Blair is fast becoming a dictator. If anyone disagrees with him, it doesn't matter because he takes no notice of anyone but himself. I will never vote for Labour again whilst he is their leader!

[stevie_c2it]

Sp1814, could you elaborate on the difference between Labour sleaze, and Tory real sleaze? I�m not sure I follow the difference. Does telling lies to your fellow MP�s and the electorate in order to start a foolish and illegal war count as sleaze or real sleaze? I�m sure the many thousands of dead people would welcome your clarification.
Of course getting your �rocks off� in a Chelsea shirt is definitely really sleazy!

[sp1814]

Kathyan - but we had the same with Thatcher! The only difference between Our Tone and Lady M is that Margaret had a better hairstylist.

Steve - Labour sleaze is small scale when you compare the sleaze of the Tories - remember the dog days of the Major administration? Labour would have to work long and hard to reach that level of public mistrust. Also, we have the second strongest economy of any European country - manufacturing output has increased year on year for the past eight years.

Also, Tony was led astray by wicked, wicked people (probably all Tories) before the invasion of Iraq. He was entirely innocent, and no blame should be place on his shoulders.

Join me in praising Tony and everything he does.

[Paul22118]

I have just re - viewed the Parkinson show in question and the PM did not say God told him to go to war. What he said, inferred, meant or conjectured was that he mad the decision based on all that had been told to him and all the advice offered. Then he went away in silence to mull it all over in his mind and took the decision to go for it. He then said if that was the wrong decision then he will ultimately be answerable to the supreme court - and I mean the really supreme court - once his time on earth is over. As will we all for whatever we have done wrong even if we thought it correct at the time.

politicians are a reflection of society, some are slimebags and some are so genuine it is not true. The PM in my view has made some blunders but he tries hard!

[tanzanya]

I don't know if this was supposed to be a hilarious thread or what but you've all really made me giggle out loud. especially johnlambert - too true!

Personally, I think politicians have forgotten that they are supposed to be public servants. Sure its nice to know that they have a conscience which is what all this God referencing is all about, but ultimately they are responsible to the public. Us.

Plus what does all this God talk do but inflame the irrational belief by muslim fundamentalists that this whole war thing is between Us (Christians) versus Them (Muslims)?

Worrying in the extreme.

[jump79]

Could it be that poor, old and deaf Tony misheard God who was simply telling him to be more friendly towards Ch-irac and perhaps, join the E.U.... hmmmm

[parkesquay]

I think that Dom Tuk is spot on. In the recent TV past Prof Richard Rawkins did a documentary on why religion/the worship of GOD is the root cause of wars and World trouble. George Bush's American mid-West is as radical and dangerous in its beliefs as are radical Muslims. Ergo if Tony Blair is a GB fan then he has to have many things in common and be just as cupable.

[jump79]

Just re-read my post above...erm,ooops, I wrote it having slept for 4 hours if it helps...(cringe)

[sir.prize]

Quite a varied post on this subject eh?

It would be inapprpriate and unnecessary to post here the full transcript of Member of Parliament Enoch Powell's 1968 speech here in AB, but for those who are of the mind, might like to look at this link and make their own judgment on this man's thoughts of 38 years ago.

http://www.vdare.com/misc/powell_speech.htm

[sir.prize]

My sincere apologies to everyone in this thread. My response was indeed meant for another topic.

So sorry everyone.

[Andy008]

I think he displays all the necessary defining characteristics of a psychopath - that is, a psychopath in the correct medical sense of the word.