Am I mad ?

[brionon]

Two burglars who repeatedly raped a 65-year-old woman while they were high on drugs have been jailed for life.
Nineteen-year-olds David Humphrey, of Middlesbrough, and Lee Beazley, of Hemlington, broke into the woman's home in Marton in September last year.

At an earlier hearing, Humphrey admitted three counts of rape and Beazley two charges.

The judge at Teesside Crown Court described the pair as "wicked" and said they must serve at least six years.
6 Bloody Years ?

[NORMANTHEDOG]

should have SHOT them

[bug123]

These cases make me so mad - there just doesn't seem to be any justice for the poor victims anymore. And the really annoying (and somewhat scary) thing is, is that these kind of stories appear in the news every day! It's just not right.

[bug123]

And why doesn't life mean life?

[Carol Anne]

I am a law abiding citizen, but I have absolutely no respect for our justice system. In the states, any judge daft enough to pass out looney sentences like this, would be looking for another job at the end of their term of office.

Trouble here is they have a job for life. Time they were elected according to popular feeling. And yes, I would vote for the death penalty too, and a return to tougher prisons.

Vermin like those two ought to be crushed.

[bellasasha]

BRITAIN IS A JOKE!!!!!!!! this place sucks i have to say, especially when they let scum like that loose on the streets. i have said it so many times, whoever makes these rules is insane..they deserve to be in there with the scum!!

[kipchik]

They reckon britians prisons are over crowded,if theytake out the fine dodgers then they'll have room for scum like those two and the glitters??

[Drisgirl]

kipchik - I dont know if your reply was facetious but it made a lot of sense to me.

I firmly believe 95% of offenders can be rehabiliated thus rendering precious time to the real baskets

I've been naughty - not jailworthy - tho!

Life meaning life - my nails are curling like witches as I type!Let them suffer and slowly go mad and try to take thir own lives without success - yes yes yes gawd this is like Harry met Sally and I would never be so crass

[don1]

brionon do you have a lik for this

[don1]

That should have been link

[brionon]

Don, It's on the BBC News page for England. It's still there now. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tee s/4930676.stm

[lightoftruth]

Theres no overcrowding if there dead.

I find that there is one system of justice that could solve a lot of problems.

Double Jury. The first jury presides over the case and decides if the defendant is innocent and guilty.

The other decides whether it would be for the greater good if he should be killed.

The Judge can not overide this jury. The second jury is a panel of normal citizens filtered for bias just as the first jury always is. This system would only apply to what i cwould class as crimes of abomination i.e rape, paedophilia, murder.

No lawyers are involved in swaying the second jury. they go by exactly what the first jury is told when the case is giong on. This eliminates the risk that only the poorer classes who cant afford good lawyers and the rich escape justice.

On a final note though. The actual killing is swift and painless. The fact that you shall die is punishment enough. There would be none of this burning them etc rubbish. That just lowers us to their pyschotic level

Finally justice would is given back its power

[gazzawazza]

From the front page of our local paper, 'Lee Beazley and David Humphrey, both 19 were yesterday given indeterminate sentences "commonly known as imprisonment for life", by Judge Peter Fox QC at Teesside Crown Court.

'He ruled the public needed protection from the "wicked" pair, who broke into the gran's Marton home then bound, gagged and raped her.

'He set the rapists a minimum term of six years, less time spent on remand, before hope of parole, but warned arriving at this figure was an artificial exercise, and they should not expect release on serving that time.'

No doubt some do-gooders will come up with some reason for their actions, but these sort of crimes will continue to happen until the punishments are actually a suitable deterrent. Hopefully their sentences will be a lot longer and hard for them to bear. I hope they rot in hell.

[bernardo]

In answer to your question ("Am I mad?") the answer is yes, because you have given a long rambling story which is completely unrelated to your question.

[Greedyfly]

Life should be exactly that - our law is a sham most of the time

[jake-the-peg]

You ought to read this site:

http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/

They set the guidelines that judges use to set sentences. If the Judge has been too lenient with respect to these there will doubtlessly be an appeal and adjustment will be made.

This is actually a huge improvement to the old system 10 or 15 years ago when the tarrif was kept secret and you'd not know.

There's also a section on public consultation