Blairs legacy......Perfidious Albion ! !

[Dom Tuk]

For someone who is so concerned about the legacy he will leave behind and how history will judge him he should have watched BBC2 series on the Suez crisis. Incredible parallels with the Iraq situation. Sadly Anthony Eden lied to the parliament and his lies were exposed. His final words were...there will be no apology (the parliament cheered). He also stated that 'he was a man of peace who worked all his life for peace'. Treacherous cretin. Did anyone else see the series?

[dummkopf]

I've recorded this, but I'm hoping there were only 3 parts to it and I didn't miss any !

[matt66]

spot on Dom Tuk as usual.

The treachery of the Brits in the Suez crisis was unbelievable. Everything that Eden said during the crisis is being repeated by the Labour leader in this disaster. The visage of peacemaker that Blair projects is just like Eden. I was sickened by the fact that his MPs cheered in parliament when he said there will never be an apology (just like Blair). Regime change was the main reason for the suez invasion as it was with the iraq war and in both cases the govts of the time lied to its people and parliament. They were both Tonys, and remarkably their wives resemeble each other. Cherie will look like Lady Eden in her old age. Both wives still beleive that their husbands were right. Eden resigned quoting ill health. Blair will go the same way when his chancellor (like Edens) will have turned the knife a few times.

[matt66]

Not forgetting that the Liar Eden made a big play of his ill health when he resigned. He could not bring himself to say that his shameful and perfidious policies in Egypt were what forced his resignation as it was untenable that he could continue as PM after the humiliation of having to withdraw your forces from an illegal war. Ill health my haarse. He lived for another 20 years after his resignation on grounds of ill health. the lying Baastaard.

[jake-the-peg]

Yes - and there was an implication that in turn he was betrayed by McMillian and the Americans.

I think your prejudices may be getting the better of you though. The analogy is more with Bush than Blair - After all Suez was Eden's obsession in the same way that Iraq has been Bush's.

That very point was made in last night's program - I think you're twisting it too far.

Not that I'm defending Blair w.r.t. Iraq - I just think the analogy breaks if you push it too hard

[Dom Tuk]

The analogy with Bush is limited to the obsession that Bush has with Saddam (his fathers legacy) and Edens obsession with Nasser. The rest is clearly an analogy of Britain under the Tory Eden and Britain under the Labour Blair. Perfidious albion indeed...irrespective of political leanings. It is not pushing anything jake....maybe in your political sphere but not the historians, as the programme clearly demonstrated.

[jake-the-peg]

The program said that "Eden had an obsession with Nasser ...in the same way that Bush had an obsession with Sadam Hussein, it was irrational and unhelpfull"

Eden lead and the US objected, Blair followed a US initiative

There are also significant differences

[Dom Tuk]

jake

The parallels between the Eden and Blair treachery in leading the country to a needless war under false pretences is plain to see. Commentators lined up in the programme to say it. matt66 has outlines some quirkier comparisons which are plainly coincidental. The labour faithful ofcourse will pooh pooh it.