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Do other countries wear poppies or something similar? Here in USA no-one wears them, although Nov 11th is a national holiday.
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In the years immediately following The Great War, governments and the whole of society, had not accepted the responsibility for those incapacitated and left bereft as a result of war. In Britain, massive unemployment accentuated the problem.
Earl Haig, the British Commander-in-Chief, undertook the task of organising the Royal British Legion as a means of coping with the problems of hundreds and thousands of men who had served under him in battle.
In 1921, a group of widows of French ex-servicemen called on him at the British Legion Headquarters. They brought with them from France some poppies they had made, and suggested that they might be sold as a means of raising money to aid the distressed among those who were incapacitated as a result of the war.
The Red Poppy is certainly worn in other Commonwealth countries such as Canada, Australia and New Zealand for Remembrance Day.
Earl Haig, the British Commander-in-Chief, undertook the task of organising the Royal British Legion as a means of coping with the problems of hundreds and thousands of men who had served under him in battle.
In 1921, a group of widows of French ex-servicemen called on him at the British Legion Headquarters. They brought with them from France some poppies they had made, and suggested that they might be sold as a means of raising money to aid the distressed among those who were incapacitated as a result of the war.
The Red Poppy is certainly worn in other Commonwealth countries such as Canada, Australia and New Zealand for Remembrance Day.
A bit less invovment NH ? In the summer of 1918 significant numbers of American troops arrived in Europe, and they started arriving at 10,000 men a day .
Thank goodness they did or we wouldn't all be here to tell the tale .And there are many of them laying in the fields of Flanders ....have a bit of respect for men who lay down their lives for what they believe in and I repeat "Wear your poppy with pride ".
Thank goodness they did or we wouldn't all be here to tell the tale .And there are many of them laying in the fields of Flanders ....have a bit of respect for men who lay down their lives for what they believe in and I repeat "Wear your poppy with pride ".
As Stu relates, 11/11 is still a national holiday, except that the name Armistice Day was changed to Veterans' Day by Act of Congress on May 24, 1954. This was done to honor all veteran's, especially the ones from WWII. The day is still highlighted with the President attending the Changing of the Guard at the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington Cemetery. In many small communties of the U.S., veteran's organizations still sell the paper poppies... at least here in the western U.S. They commorate the famous poem: In Flander's Fields...
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Cheap and tacky has nothing to do with it ..it's a poppy ..and at the end of the day the money donated goes to a good cause. It's not a fashion statement.
I couldn't give a monkeys chuff if your Scottish poppies are better then our English ones.The men of the United Kingdom went to war ..not just the Scots or the English.
I couldn't give a monkeys chuff if your Scottish poppies are better then our English ones.The men of the United Kingdom went to war ..not just the Scots or the English.
Well done Shaneystar.
I ask that question every year in the local pub quiz. I get rather annoyed at all the "Wilfred Owen" and "Seigfried Sassoon" and "Rupert Brooke" answers. From the same people, too! I know I shouldn't, but it rather grates that people recite it every year at this time, and yet few remember who actually wrote the lines.
But, to return to the salient point, we WILL remember them. God bless the lot of them. And I hope that things don't change once Henry Allingham shoulders arms. In my view, he should be given a state funeral. In fact, a petition ought to be started to that effect.
Sorry, Stu, I can't help you on your orginal question
I ask that question every year in the local pub quiz. I get rather annoyed at all the "Wilfred Owen" and "Seigfried Sassoon" and "Rupert Brooke" answers. From the same people, too! I know I shouldn't, but it rather grates that people recite it every year at this time, and yet few remember who actually wrote the lines.
But, to return to the salient point, we WILL remember them. God bless the lot of them. And I hope that things don't change once Henry Allingham shoulders arms. In my view, he should be given a state funeral. In fact, a petition ought to be started to that effect.
Sorry, Stu, I can't help you on your orginal question
jenstar - how disrespectful - a poppy is a poppy, no matter what it looks like - it still represents the same thing!
We wear our English poppies with pride & remember all the servicemen/women who fought & died for our Country in WW1, WW2 & all those since.
As I've mentioned before - my Grandad was killed in action in WW1& is buried in Ypres. He left a wife & young children, one of which was my Dad.
My other Grandad was injured fighting in WW2, but fortunately made it home to his wife & children, one of which was my Mum.
P.S. If we hadn't have had the Americana as our allies, I doubt very much if we'd be sitting here posting tonight.
We wear our English poppies with pride & remember all the servicemen/women who fought & died for our Country in WW1, WW2 & all those since.
As I've mentioned before - my Grandad was killed in action in WW1& is buried in Ypres. He left a wife & young children, one of which was my Dad.
My other Grandad was injured fighting in WW2, but fortunately made it home to his wife & children, one of which was my Mum.
P.S. If we hadn't have had the Americana as our allies, I doubt very much if we'd be sitting here posting tonight.
"Oh! You who sleep in Flanders Fields,
Sleep sweet-to rise anew!
We caught the torch you threw
And holding high, we keep the Faith
With all who died.
We cherish, too, the poppy red
That grows on fields where valour led;
It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies,
But lends a lustre to the red
Of the flower that blooms above the dead
In Flanders Fields.
And now the Torch and Poppy red
We wear in honour of our dead.
Fear not that ye have died for naught;
We'll teach the lesson that ye wrought
In Flanders Fields".
Sleep sweet-to rise anew!
We caught the torch you threw
And holding high, we keep the Faith
With all who died.
We cherish, too, the poppy red
That grows on fields where valour led;
It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies,
But lends a lustre to the red
Of the flower that blooms above the dead
In Flanders Fields.
And now the Torch and Poppy red
We wear in honour of our dead.
Fear not that ye have died for naught;
We'll teach the lesson that ye wrought
In Flanders Fields".
I shall wear my (english) poppy with pride (im a Scot), alongside my campaign medals on Nov 12th at the Cenetaph in Leicester's Victoria Park if anyone cares to join me. I shall be thinking of my fallen comrades as the clock strikes 11 and for the following 2 minutes, please excuse me if you see a slight moistening in my eyes, they were great guys and I will NEVER forget them
We are the Dead.
Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
