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Compulsary organ donation
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According to the Chief Medical Officer, we should be considered a possible candidate for organ donation upon death, unless we've opted out.
Seems fine to me. Some people are suggesting that it shouldn't be up to the government to dictate what happens to you when you die, but if you can opt out, and if this opt out process was well publicised and easy to do, where's the problem?
Seems fine to me. Some people are suggesting that it shouldn't be up to the government to dictate what happens to you when you die, but if you can opt out, and if this opt out process was well publicised and easy to do, where's the problem?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.jake, this may be the sort of thing Clanad had in mind
http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/2007/07/organ -harvesting-lawsuit-potential.html
http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/2007/07/organ -harvesting-lawsuit-potential.html
Trouble is Gina they will want my organs but they won't take my blood (transfusion received in 1990). I can't see why my organs will be any different...both can be tested.
As for the issue of opting in or opting out..I am still not sure. I lean towards opting in, probably for the same reasons as Jno has stated.
My family know of my wishes ~ the Doc's can harvest the lot if they wish ~ but I feel a bit uncomfortable about it being compulsory.
As for the issue of opting in or opting out..I am still not sure. I lean towards opting in, probably for the same reasons as Jno has stated.
My family know of my wishes ~ the Doc's can harvest the lot if they wish ~ but I feel a bit uncomfortable about it being compulsory.
Gina, my husband is a kidney transplant patient, I have copied and pasted from a discussion we had back in May on here as I am being lazy lol :o)
My husband had his second kidney transplant 4 years ago, when our youngest daughter was only 2 months old. He was so ill for years leading up to that transplant, but he kept going but as time went on he kept getting other complications and I truly believe if he hadn't have had the kidney when he did he may not be here with us today.
I cried that day they said he was to have the transplant, not just out of relief and fear but for the family that had lost their loved one but were allowing my husband to have another chance at life. Thank you xx
My husband had his second kidney transplant 4 years ago, when our youngest daughter was only 2 months old. He was so ill for years leading up to that transplant, but he kept going but as time went on he kept getting other complications and I truly believe if he hadn't have had the kidney when he did he may not be here with us today.
I cried that day they said he was to have the transplant, not just out of relief and fear but for the family that had lost their loved one but were allowing my husband to have another chance at life. Thank you xx
We literally went through hell, my husband had to go to dialysis 3 times a week at St James hospital, we live over 20miles away. He would have to go on an evening because of work and not get in untill 1am and still get up for work at 6am. He would get so ill before and after. Many a time he was taken away in an ambulance because his health would take a serious dive and I had to reassure my eldest child (would have been under 5 yrs at the time) that he would be fine when I didn't even know that myself. This went on for over 4 years whilst he waited. That's a long time when you don't know if your going to be so ill for the rest of your life and you get so sick and tired of constantly being ill that you just want to give up.
All that changed because he had a kidney transplant. Why waste valuable organs by not allowing people to opt out if they have a strong enough view?
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question41 3483.html
All that changed because he had a kidney transplant. Why waste valuable organs by not allowing people to opt out if they have a strong enough view?
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question41 3483.html
I don't have very strong feeling on this but I'm an opt inner for 2 reasons, all you pro opt outers try and convince me:
1. To opt out you have to carry some sort of card all the time, i know I don't always have all my cards with me, is there an alternative? What about forget the cards but have the opt inners have a small tattoo say under the foot, that way cards will be unnecessary, I'd happily do the same to opt out.
2. Touched on by Clanad, I am told that in order for organs to be useful they have to come from a live person, I may be wrong on this so convince me they don't hack you up before you are dead, or indeed hasten death for harvesting purposes.
I just don't trust the arrogance of the medical profession. Also how do I know to what lengths medics my go to to find my opt out card etc, I just think it will deteriorate into medics playing god in the backs of ambulances. Sorry guys I need convincing!
1. To opt out you have to carry some sort of card all the time, i know I don't always have all my cards with me, is there an alternative? What about forget the cards but have the opt inners have a small tattoo say under the foot, that way cards will be unnecessary, I'd happily do the same to opt out.
2. Touched on by Clanad, I am told that in order for organs to be useful they have to come from a live person, I may be wrong on this so convince me they don't hack you up before you are dead, or indeed hasten death for harvesting purposes.
I just don't trust the arrogance of the medical profession. Also how do I know to what lengths medics my go to to find my opt out card etc, I just think it will deteriorate into medics playing god in the backs of ambulances. Sorry guys I need convincing!
I agree with organ donation and signed onto the NHS register some years ago, I have only been concerned about 1 problem and that is about waiting lists. If you consider there are 2 waiting lists, 1 for NHS, the other for private patients. If a kidney say becomes available is that offered to the first match of the private patient and the NHS gets 2nd option. Also if some people are willing to pay fro treatment why don't they donate something to the offspring of the deceased person? At present this is deemed immoral but I personally cannot see the difference.
Hi again Kwicky :o)
The organ would go to the better match, doesn't matter if someone has been on the list one week or 5 years or if they are private or NHS, apart from families or twins no-one would be the exact same match for the organ, then other factors would be taken into consideration too such as who is the nearest match, their physical fitness, blood pressure etc it all plays apart in who would accept the organ the best and would be least likely to reject it.
The organ would go to the better match, doesn't matter if someone has been on the list one week or 5 years or if they are private or NHS, apart from families or twins no-one would be the exact same match for the organ, then other factors would be taken into consideration too such as who is the nearest match, their physical fitness, blood pressure etc it all plays apart in who would accept the organ the best and would be least likely to reject it.
Sorry for the late reply, jake... here's a few reports out of many:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06062707. html
http://www.geocities.com/organdonate/aninvente ddeath.html
http://www.geocities.com/organdonate/battlefor thebody.html
http://incontiguousbrick.wordpress.com/2007/05 /22/falun-gong-enthusiasts-volunteer-for-live- organ-donation/
http://ethictransplantation.blogspot.com/2006/ 05/nasty-side-of-organ-transplanting.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender .fcgi?artid=137443
http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/21/over-enthu siastic-organ-procurement
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06062707. html
http://www.geocities.com/organdonate/aninvente ddeath.html
http://www.geocities.com/organdonate/battlefor thebody.html
http://incontiguousbrick.wordpress.com/2007/05 /22/falun-gong-enthusiasts-volunteer-for-live- organ-donation/
http://ethictransplantation.blogspot.com/2006/ 05/nasty-side-of-organ-transplanting.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender .fcgi?artid=137443
http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/21/over-enthu siastic-organ-procurement
In response to Loosehead
My recent experience of having a relative donating his organs. He was dead, he died before getting to hospital but various tests undertaken by the hospital he was in, and having the tests checked out by a consultant from another hospital took a long time. All the time they were waiting to be able to tell his wife that he was technically dead, they kept him 'alive' on a machine. Once it was understood that he was technically dead, she was given the choice how long to keep the machine on with the understanding that if she was going to agree to harvesting, the machine would be kept on.
The efforts of the medical profession appeared to be to first ascertain if medical help was possible to the patient, then when this had been rigorously explored as non viable, they were concerned with the feelings of the spouse and only then what organs they could harvest.
My view, strengthened by my personal experience, is it should be compulsory with an opt out clause for those who think they have some use for their corpse.
My recent experience of having a relative donating his organs. He was dead, he died before getting to hospital but various tests undertaken by the hospital he was in, and having the tests checked out by a consultant from another hospital took a long time. All the time they were waiting to be able to tell his wife that he was technically dead, they kept him 'alive' on a machine. Once it was understood that he was technically dead, she was given the choice how long to keep the machine on with the understanding that if she was going to agree to harvesting, the machine would be kept on.
The efforts of the medical profession appeared to be to first ascertain if medical help was possible to the patient, then when this had been rigorously explored as non viable, they were concerned with the feelings of the spouse and only then what organs they could harvest.
My view, strengthened by my personal experience, is it should be compulsory with an opt out clause for those who think they have some use for their corpse.
Let's say I die in an accident and leave a request in my will that my family should cook and eat me. Happy to oblige, my family roasts me with garlic and rosemary and has a nice slap-up meal with all the trimmings by way of a send of. As the law stands, they'd face criminal charges.
Not particularly relevant. Other than the quirk by which the wishes of the deceased and their family are held to be sacred when they want useful organs to decompose in the ground, but not when they could go towards feeding a family. Hmmm...
Not particularly relevant. Other than the quirk by which the wishes of the deceased and their family are held to be sacred when they want useful organs to decompose in the ground, but not when they could go towards feeding a family. Hmmm...
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