Are not these awards also racist?

[anotheoldgit]

With tonight's MOBO (Music of Black Origin) awards and previous BET (Black Entertainment TV) awards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/69598 35.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/51237 94.stm

Why are these necessary when we are constantly being told to ignore a person's colour? If there were to be awards for Music of White Origin or White Entertainment TV, they would be construde as racist.

[sp1814]

Supernick

Just Jack's 'Starz In Their Eyes' is one of the great singles of the year.

Pippa68

Justin Timberlake is the human equivalent of that strange smell that you encounter in your kitchen...that you just can't quite locate....

[Goodsoulette]

Sp, all respect I had for you has gone out the window.

Starz in their eyes or spoons wedged in my brain via the ears?

Ill take the spoons, I might even take Kylie over that.....urghhhh

[sp1814]

Goodsoulette

You are an unenlightened person.

Kylie rocks.

This is not an opinion.

It's fact.

Go to YouTube and watch the video for 'Spinning Around'.

And Just Jack is a fine young artist...I would agree that he's minging, but that's irrelevent whilst Kylie is around.

[Booldawg]

Sorry to steal SP1814s thunder but 50 pence was a spoof done on 50 cent in 2003. A Watford based artist, lyrics as below;

Go Go.......Go on love
it's my birthday
you look tarty love
its my birthday
i'll buy you a bacardi love
it's my birthday
and you know i'm having a love its not my birthday
[Chorus 2x]
You can find me in da pub wit a pint of bud
look love i got a fiver if you let me see your jugs
i'm into playing darts i ain't into growing shrubs
so come fill up my mug before my fag gets stubbed

When i pull up out front you see my vauxhall nova
whin i hit the bar it's ten pint fore i'm over
i came to watch the game cause i'm a blackburn rover
and i'm munching M&Ms while i'm downing smirnova
but only noting changend cash down bottoms up
and i got a papercut for rolling my rizzla up
if you watch how i move you'll mistake me for a geezer or gimp
cause i fell down my stairs and now i walk with a limp
in the back bits of Watford they say fifty you're hot
they like me i want them to love me like lesbian hot
but go in to Hemel-Hempsted they'll tell you i'm crazy
cause once i was drunk and humped the statue of a lady
but i'm fully focused now
tea and coffee on my mind
got a part time job in the daily grind
and this girls yeah
she loves my hair
she likes my car
her boyfriends fit but she's ugly too righht

[Chorus 2x]

[Booldawg]

You can find me in the pub
with a pint of bud
look love i got a fiver if you let me see your jugs
i'm into playing darts i ain't into growing shrubs
so come fill up my mug before my fag gats stubbed

My girlfriends mum gave me the cash
that bought me all my fancy stuff
my couch, my fridge, my plates, my waste
look mate i'm tied down but i ain't changed
and you should love it way more than i hate it
your like my dad's fashion outdated
i'm that bloke by the bar when i'm on my round
your that weird guy who never leaves or makes a sound
when the beats start pumping i get my macarena on
my mates drag me to the chair before the end of the song
if the roofs on fire someone dial 999
and if you wanna have frank love
it isn't a crime
i'll tell you what i tell every girl
your fit
nice hair
if you don't want to rush it
here's another red square
or i can tell my mates to be round the back with a Kronenburg
they'll now where we ****ing be,yeah

[Chorus 2x]

You can find me in the pub
with a pint of bud look love i got a fiver if you let me see your jugs
i'm into playing darts i ain't into growing shrubs
so come fill up my mug before my fag gets stubbed

Don't act like you don't now where i been either mum
in the pub all the time mum
it's time to pop off mum
burn unit

[Goodsoulette]

I did as you asked Sp, I turned it off after 35 seconds. I just cant, cant do it.

Guitars and boys with nice scruffy hair and killer voiced do it for me.

If Muse dont win the best live act thing tonight for Wembley, I shall ignore those awards till the day I die.





Madonna sucks a fat one too.



and whoever decided the Foo Fighters should have been second to last to her at Live Earth, quite frankly, makes me deliberate whether the death penalty does need reinstating. God, she so dull!

[Goodsoulette]

I also think Kylie looks a bit like a horse. I think shes gonna resemble Camiila in 20 years.

[sp1814]

Goodsoulette

I will concede just this one point...

'Supermassive Black Hole' by Muse is one of the best British rock songs of the decade.

I will admit that it's one of the song that I play every morning on my iPod at the gym.

However, no matter how good that track is, Muse will never be as great as Her Majesty Madonna. This is why she headlined Live Earth.

I mean you couldn't imagine Matthew Bellamy looking as good as Madonna at 50 in a pink leotard.

In fact, he'd look pretty wrong at his age right now.

You know you'll be buying Our Good Lady's new CD when it comes out in November.

You just know it.

[sp1814]

Oh and speaking of people who look like horses...

Dave Grohl definitely looks like something that would've come a cropper at Beeches Brook...

[Goodsoulette]

Dave Grohl is phit and talented.

Come on Sp, were you hiding your face in a pillow as she embarrassing faked playing that guitar very badly? I noted the status quo was she held her pose with it, not coordinated enough to rock backwards and forwards at the same time.

Super Massive Blackhole was a cracker indeed but by no means the best song on that album. Im not a cryer but I admit to getting teary no less then 4 times during the wembley gig. ALmost as much as it happens a Starsailor lol

[sp1814]

For anyone who thought that the MOBOs were in any way 'exclusive':

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/70037 02.stm

and deservedly so if you ask me.

Britain's best soul singer right now is white.

[sp1814]

Goodsoulette

I borrowed the last Muse CD from a mate at work. I wasn't impressed.

However, I honestly think that Supermassive Black Hole is better than any rock track I've heard since...since...well, I'd have to go back to early 70s Bowie and Bolan.

I regard it that highly.

And please don't slate My Good Lady's guitar playing. I have it on good authority that none other than Eric Clapton phones her up once a week for tips.

True.

[Goodsoulette]

You have just knocked out years and years of amazing bands. PEARL JAM!!!!!

[Marvelman]

What a joke, if there was an awards show called Music of White Origin there would be all hell let lose, the limp wristers would have a field day, Pakistan and India would be burning effigies of the producers, ABers would be up in arms about it, but thats ok after all its only Great Brittain.

[sp1814]

Marvelman

You've deliberately missed the point. I'll explain again.

The Country Music Awards are specifically for country music.

The Kerrang Awards are specifically for rock acts.

The Q Awards are for rock/indie bands.

The Classical Brits Awards are for classical/opera artists.

The MOBO Awards are for rap, hip hop, blues, soul, dance, r'n'b, jazz acts.

Right...how exactly would you summarise all those disparate musical forms? The one unifying element that they have in common are that they are all music of black origin.

Simple as that.

Also, if there were a Music Of White Origin award show, what music do you think would be represented?

Nope - I can't name any music which is from white origins either...perhaps the stuff morris dancers play, but not much else.

[Booldawg]

Could you not class both country and western and classical of being 'music of white origin' ? I cant recall any black composers or C&W artists that were there in the infancy of their particular styles. Not sure where rock came from either - Jerry Lee Lewis ?

[anotheoldgit]

It is you sp1814 that is missing the point yet again not Marvelman, Why do they have to attach the colour of a person's skin, to a particular type of music? Shall we now change the Classical Brits Awards, to the Classical White Awards?

Regarding the perceived racism against blacks, at the Emmys, Oscars and BAFTAs, because the podiums are not exactly brimming with black faces, but you never hear black people complaining (that's a laugh for a start).

Could not the reason being for this, is that blacks are just cr*p actors? The same reason that you don't find many white faces on the athletic podiums. Do the whites complain? no we celebrate the fact.

[Reverandfunk]

Is there a category for "original work that hasn't been sampled and sounds totally different to all the other sh5te"

[Pippa68]

Because it IS music of black origin. Country music isn't music of white origin..it is from the rural areas of the Southern States.

I still don't understand why this is such an issue. As has already been noted, the MOBO's aren't an awards ceremony for black people. it has also been explained why they can't be called the R & B or Hip Hop awards ~ as music of black origin contains different genres.

[Reverandfunk]

God Pippa please dont put ideas into people heads lol

RnB awards, excuse me whilst I go asnd look for stout rope and a sturdy beam....