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EU Referendum
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Do you think we'll get it?
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No I don't think we will get it and I reiterate that I don't believe that the majority of this country (myself included) understand the full implications of the referendum - just the highlights / lowlights as picked out by the sensationalist media.
I therefore firmly believe that there should not be a referendum.
I therefore firmly believe that there should not be a referendum.
Woah there - we're already fully paid up members of Europe!
The point is that with the Enlargement of the EU the old way in which it worked where you had to get everybody to agree becomes more and more difficult and bureaucratic.
Imagine if all parties had to agree in Westminster before a law was passed!
The main thrust of the proposal was to move towards a voting system.
This was embedded in a constitution which had other proposals as well. This was rejected by a couple of countries and looked like being rejected here so it was back to square 1.
So some of the extraneous issues have been dropped and it's being reintroduced - not as a constitution.
Gordon Brown maintains that the UK was promissed a vote on any EU constitution but this is no longer a constitution. Other anti-EU elements want referendum because they want a chance to reject it and (I think it's fair to say try to do as much damage to the EU as possible)
The EU has brought in a fairly large number of controls on Businesses from additional safety on cars to taking companies like Microsoft to court for trying to squash competition to starting the smoking bans.
Unsurprisingly there are a number of organisations that don't like it - especially Rupert Murdoch and his papers and TV channels can often be relied on for an anti-EU angle.
They would quote bureaucracy and cost yet in blocking this they are stopping anti beaurocracy measures.
The debate is big and complex and generally pretty biased - I'm pretty Pro-European ( We've not followed them into any wars ) so that's my slant - I'd guess you'll probably find more people with an anti-EU bias on here
The point is that with the Enlargement of the EU the old way in which it worked where you had to get everybody to agree becomes more and more difficult and bureaucratic.
Imagine if all parties had to agree in Westminster before a law was passed!
The main thrust of the proposal was to move towards a voting system.
This was embedded in a constitution which had other proposals as well. This was rejected by a couple of countries and looked like being rejected here so it was back to square 1.
So some of the extraneous issues have been dropped and it's being reintroduced - not as a constitution.
Gordon Brown maintains that the UK was promissed a vote on any EU constitution but this is no longer a constitution. Other anti-EU elements want referendum because they want a chance to reject it and (I think it's fair to say try to do as much damage to the EU as possible)
The EU has brought in a fairly large number of controls on Businesses from additional safety on cars to taking companies like Microsoft to court for trying to squash competition to starting the smoking bans.
Unsurprisingly there are a number of organisations that don't like it - especially Rupert Murdoch and his papers and TV channels can often be relied on for an anti-EU angle.
They would quote bureaucracy and cost yet in blocking this they are stopping anti beaurocracy measures.
The debate is big and complex and generally pretty biased - I'm pretty Pro-European ( We've not followed them into any wars ) so that's my slant - I'd guess you'll probably find more people with an anti-EU bias on here
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