Royal Mail Spanish Practices

[meredith101]

These are hilarious:

Royal Mail accuses the union of wanting to preserve working practices such as:
Freedom for workers to go home before the end of their shift if they have completed their work
Automatic overtime pay if mail volumes reach a certain level regardless of how many working hours remain in the day
No overlap between functions in the same workplace
Collection drivers can expect overtime pay for doing collections outside their route even if it is done within normal working hours
Overtime pay to cover colleague absence or to help in the sorting office even if within normal working hours

No wonder they are getting revised. How can anyone possibly justify this kind of setup?

[meredith101]

ps, if my mail comes, and it's too big, and I'm not in, he either dumps it on the doorstep or fails to fill in the card properly. If I'm in, he often knocks once then shoots off like he's got 2 minutes to live. Is my postie just trying to work his route as fast as possible so he can go home and put his feet up?

Will be much easier for the competition to gain a foothold after all this palaver..........

[meredith101]

No, I would accept that it was ridiculous and would give it up if it meant my employer surviving. These kind of things can put a business under in a competitive environment.

[horsestache1]

meredith101 you are wrong, sooooooooooo wrong, the postie does not rush to go home and put his feet up.

He rushes to go to his second job, the one he does'nt pay tax nor NI on.

Silly you!!!!!!

[meredith101]

mabye he is a foot model. then you're wrong. sooooo sooo wrong
;-)

[mike1222]

It's a Facist assault on their right to overtime pay, even though they work it within their normal paid hours - work that one out if you can !!!
Meredith, they don't fill the relevant form in correctly because half of them can't read properly - that seems to be one of the required job qualifications!

[ludwig]

Irrespective of whether those practices are outdated/stupid or whatever, I think the problem is that the company wants to rip up their existing terms and conditions of employment and hand them a new set which leaves them far worse off.
Would you be happy to just accept that if it happened to you?

[Postdog]

Thank you Ludwig, at last someone who sees what the problem is.

[meredith101]

what? how are the posties trying to help royal mail? most of what they are demanding runs contrary to the business interests of royal mail.

[bpoolmecca]

No worries let all the postmen leave let the polish do it quicker better and for the minimum wage .its 2007 lets see the end of trade unions and there last century ideals

[realist101]

those practices dont exist never have done in the four months ive been there,[royal mail] i have never finished at the time i should and usually give royal mail 5 hours on average free per week, plus other benefits , all those things you claim your postie does are sackable offences where i come from, mind you where i come from decent postmen are leaving,sounds like your tasting the type of thing to come , do you think some of the comments posted are like your postman out of order

[buildersmate]

I think many (most) of us understand the problem with the existing working arrangements, and we can also understand why the posties are fighting to preserve the status quo. But we also feel that these arrangements have existed for far too long when many other industries either revised such working practices or went under. Unfortunately the gravy train has to stop sometime. Those of us with long memories remember Michael Edwardes, Eddie Shah and the host of others who stood up to similar inefficiencies. Adam Crozier is the first man to be blunt enough to try and do it in Royal Mail.