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Should we wake up and act on the findings of Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister, when he says that if what was taking place in British Mosques was taking place in Baghdad's Mosques, they would be closed down.
Should we wake up and act on the findings of Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister, when he says that if what was taking place in British Mosques was taking place in Baghdad's Mosques, they would be closed down.
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Quick lesson in Islam for hard of thinking Daily Mail readers.
Dr Barham Salih is a Kurd and practices a form of Islam called Yazdanism.
Yazdanism could be called 'Islam Lite'. They are not at all fervent. Kurdish women do not have to wear the hijab or chador and are not restricted like orthodox Sunnis.
So when he sees the fundamentalism and hijabs in Blackburn he will compare it with his own brand of Islam and see it as more extreme.
Dr Barham Salih is a Kurd and practices a form of Islam called Yazdanism.
Yazdanism could be called 'Islam Lite'. They are not at all fervent. Kurdish women do not have to wear the hijab or chador and are not restricted like orthodox Sunnis.
So when he sees the fundamentalism and hijabs in Blackburn he will compare it with his own brand of Islam and see it as more extreme.
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RAGGY ROMAN,
I will try again as you haven't quite grasped the concept.
Iraq is an amalgam of different peoples namely Kurds, Arabs and Persians.
It is also an amalgam of different kinds of Islam, namely Shias, Sunnis and Yazd�nis.
The Kurds are Yazd�nis and are not very ferevent compared with say the Shia influenced areas.
The muslims in Blackburn are influneced by Shias and not Yazd�nis.
It is like if I went to a Protestant church in Belfast, I might think it more extreme than a Protestant church in Milton Keynes.
I will try again as you haven't quite grasped the concept.
Iraq is an amalgam of different peoples namely Kurds, Arabs and Persians.
It is also an amalgam of different kinds of Islam, namely Shias, Sunnis and Yazd�nis.
The Kurds are Yazd�nis and are not very ferevent compared with say the Shia influenced areas.
The muslims in Blackburn are influneced by Shias and not Yazd�nis.
It is like if I went to a Protestant church in Belfast, I might think it more extreme than a Protestant church in Milton Keynes.
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Raggy Roman Just try to accept what Gromit says is always right, it does marvels for his already highly inflated ego.
He already wishes to take over the Answer Bank (ask the Ed.) and anyone who dares to read or quote any other publication to the ones he approves of, is classed some-what inferior to the great almighty GROMIT.
He already wishes to take over the Answer Bank (ask the Ed.) and anyone who dares to read or quote any other publication to the ones he approves of, is classed some-what inferior to the great almighty GROMIT.
Calm down AOG,
Everything said on here is just friendly banter and is not meant to be personal. My jibe against Sun readers was cheap, but belittling Sun Readers is almost a national institution. If you want to buy it and read it, you are welcome, feel free to sneer at snooty Telegraph readers if you like.
A footnote to the Blackburn Mosques story:
The Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw and a gaggle of Police officers accompanied the Iraqi Deputy PM every step of his visit to Blackburn and the mosques. They did not report any illegal literature and the Police did not confiscate anything or make any arrests.
His visit was shadowed by Anti-Iraq war protestors from London. They were very vocal on the day and had leaflets and placards denouncing the war. Mr Barham Salih was very much in favour of the war, and went as far as to urge the Muslims of Blackburn to vote for Jack Straw. It is possible that it was the Anti-war people he took exception to.
Everything said on here is just friendly banter and is not meant to be personal. My jibe against Sun readers was cheap, but belittling Sun Readers is almost a national institution. If you want to buy it and read it, you are welcome, feel free to sneer at snooty Telegraph readers if you like.
A footnote to the Blackburn Mosques story:
The Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw and a gaggle of Police officers accompanied the Iraqi Deputy PM every step of his visit to Blackburn and the mosques. They did not report any illegal literature and the Police did not confiscate anything or make any arrests.
His visit was shadowed by Anti-Iraq war protestors from London. They were very vocal on the day and had leaflets and placards denouncing the war. Mr Barham Salih was very much in favour of the war, and went as far as to urge the Muslims of Blackburn to vote for Jack Straw. It is possible that it was the Anti-war people he took exception to.
Ok Gromit I apologise, but it just gets to me when you and others, class readers of the Red Tops, and other popular newspapers as some form of sub-species.
The reason that some of these publications are so popular, is because they cover news in a more direct and in-depth way without going round the houses to report, sometimes in a rather boring way. It does not mean that these readers do not in fact also read the broadsheets.
Let me try and explain; One prefers sometimes to quoff on a cheaper wine because it is palatable to one's taste. Yet some wine buffs would criticise one out of hand for daring to buy a cheap wine. Just as there are wine snobs, book snobs, film snobs, and theatre snobs, there are I am afaid newspaper snobs.
But then having said that there are those who don't like to know the truth, if it doesn't fit in with their politcal leanings.
Have you not welcomed sp1814 back into the fold yet?
The reason that some of these publications are so popular, is because they cover news in a more direct and in-depth way without going round the houses to report, sometimes in a rather boring way. It does not mean that these readers do not in fact also read the broadsheets.
Let me try and explain; One prefers sometimes to quoff on a cheaper wine because it is palatable to one's taste. Yet some wine buffs would criticise one out of hand for daring to buy a cheap wine. Just as there are wine snobs, book snobs, film snobs, and theatre snobs, there are I am afaid newspaper snobs.
But then having said that there are those who don't like to know the truth, if it doesn't fit in with their politcal leanings.
Have you not welcomed sp1814 back into the fold yet?
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AOG,
I also do not like the Guardian, and though the Times is OK, it frequently succumbs to its proprietors interests. BBC News, and Channel 4 news are good. ITV news is dumb.
I would dispute that the Sun presents the news in a more in-depth way.
If political leaning was my reason to buy a newspaper then the Torygraph should not be my purchase should it? I like to have my prejudices challenged rather than confirmed, that is partly why I like AnswerBank.
Politically, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph are the same. In is interesting sometimes comparing how they both cover the same story. On the whole, I find the Mail's reporting lazy, biased, and sensational. Not at all palatable.
I also do not like the Guardian, and though the Times is OK, it frequently succumbs to its proprietors interests. BBC News, and Channel 4 news are good. ITV news is dumb.
I would dispute that the Sun presents the news in a more in-depth way.
If political leaning was my reason to buy a newspaper then the Torygraph should not be my purchase should it? I like to have my prejudices challenged rather than confirmed, that is partly why I like AnswerBank.
Politically, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph are the same. In is interesting sometimes comparing how they both cover the same story. On the whole, I find the Mail's reporting lazy, biased, and sensational. Not at all palatable.
Fair enough Gromit, but they are your opinions, please allow others to also have opinions without scoffing at them.
Incidently I did not say that the Sun presents the news in a more in-depth way. What I did say was "some of these publications are so popular, because they cover the news in a more direct and in-depth way".
There is a great difference between SOME and ALL.
Incidently I did not say that the Sun presents the news in a more in-depth way. What I did say was "some of these publications are so popular, because they cover the news in a more direct and in-depth way".
There is a great difference between SOME and ALL.