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Not the crime of the century, "BUT"
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-103589 7/Nailed-Security-guard-police-officers-interr ogated-grammar-girl-painted-fingernail-Boots.h tml
Just another case of the parents sticking up for their children no matter what they do.
I know in the terms of things this was not a great crime, but technically she was pinching the nail varnish. The nail varnish costing �6.29 which could not have been re-sold, so she might as well have put it in her bag.
Her mother said '"She's not the kind of child to do something like that".obviously she is, because she did.
I suppose her parents are always complaining about the rise in youth crime these days, but when their little darling is caught it's a different matter?
Mrs Gilbert added: 'Hannah was scared and crying
Good then perhaps this will teach her a lesson.Nip it in the bud early with zero tolerance, and then perhaps it may make them take notice and prevent them from partaking in more serious crimes in future years.
Just another case of the parents sticking up for their children no matter what they do.
I know in the terms of things this was not a great crime, but technically she was pinching the nail varnish. The nail varnish costing �6.29 which could not have been re-sold, so she might as well have put it in her bag.
Her mother said '"She's not the kind of child to do something like that".obviously she is, because she did.
I suppose her parents are always complaining about the rise in youth crime these days, but when their little darling is caught it's a different matter?
Mrs Gilbert added: 'Hannah was scared and crying
Good then perhaps this will teach her a lesson.Nip it in the bud early with zero tolerance, and then perhaps it may make them take notice and prevent them from partaking in more serious crimes in future years.
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Sort of agree with you, technically she WAS stealing- i'm in no doubt that if not caught she'd have ontined to paint the rest of her nails??
However, the treatment of her was extreme (IMO) to say the least. She should have just recieved a 'ticking off' by the security guard and sent on her way with a flea in her ear. Apart from anything else, what a waste of police time!
I don't blame her parents being narked to say the least.
However, the treatment of her was extreme (IMO) to say the least. She should have just recieved a 'ticking off' by the security guard and sent on her way with a flea in her ear. Apart from anything else, what a waste of police time!
I don't blame her parents being narked to say the least.
If she opened a brand new sealed bottle then she was clearly in the wrong, and must have known that. I often sniff stuff in Superdrug but sniffing is not the same as painting your nails. A complete over-reaction and the family is right to emigrate as a result. Come to sodding Croydon, I'll give you better reasons to emigrate.
Crikey. and Mr A thinks I'M a Hanging Judge Jefferies! The child was 12 years old and on only her second unaccompanied trip to town. An adult would probably have realised that, in the absence of a 'tester', it would be sensible not to open a sealed bottle. Is no-one allowed one small mistake these days? I actually agree that she shouldn't have done it, but come on, guys, 12 years old, the 'lure' of trying a pink nail varnish? All conscious thought straight out the window. It doesn't make her a criminal, just a little bit young and silly, and it's not likely to lead to her becoming a full-time, hardened old lag. I dare say being dragged off to a small office by some officious security guard has been enough to ensure that she never ever tries on another nail varnish without an accompanying adult again.
Hmmm
All I can say is that there are a lot of ' thieves' in Asda on a saturday .
Given that I often observe people - opening and ' testing' a bag of grapes -Spraying and sniffing some deodrant - trying different sweets in the pick n mix , without actually making a purchase .
Hands up anyone who has never been guilty of the above .
All I can say is that there are a lot of ' thieves' in Asda on a saturday .
Given that I often observe people - opening and ' testing' a bag of grapes -Spraying and sniffing some deodrant - trying different sweets in the pick n mix , without actually making a purchase .
Hands up anyone who has never been guilty of the above .
That reaction is over the top and totally unjustified. The kid 'tried' some nail varnish, she didn't stuff it in her bag and attempt to leave town. What sort of f3ckwitted imbeciles got this strong armed with a little kid? All they've now succeeded in doing is making sure her parent's never spend any more of their doubtless loads of middle class money in their store and have given themselves endless bad publicity. Granted the kid shouldn't have opened it, but she's a kid, and as bertiwooster pointed out how many of us have never done something similar?
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Hannah, a pupil at Folkestone School for Girls who lives with her parents and brother Steven, 16, in St Mary's Bay in Kent, is still traumatised by her experience.
So traumatised that she wishes her photo to be plastered in the paper, and something that could have been kept quiet told to all her school 'friends'.
So traumatised that she wishes her photo to be plastered in the paper, and something that could have been kept quiet told to all her school 'friends'.
We have crossed swords on numourous occasions, but this time I totally agree with Oneeyedvic. She has been caught, own up, and shut up.
In answer to some of the other posts, may I say the punishment was nothing like, what most children would have experienced in my day. It wouild have been a good slap, grounded for a few days and no more pocket money until the goods were payed for. But then children know these days that no one can touch them, that is today's problem.
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Steve.5
another trivial issue blown out of all proportion by that f----- rag
Wrong, blown out of all proportion by the parents, who must have got in touch with the daily Mail.
Why so many pigs at the scene?
Would it have been so hard to type 'police' ? Obviously you are another product of this liberated age, who show little respect for authority.
In answer to some of the other posts, may I say the punishment was nothing like, what most children would have experienced in my day. It wouild have been a good slap, grounded for a few days and no more pocket money until the goods were payed for. But then children know these days that no one can touch them, that is today's problem.
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Steve.5
another trivial issue blown out of all proportion by that f----- rag
Wrong, blown out of all proportion by the parents, who must have got in touch with the daily Mail.
Why so many pigs at the scene?
Would it have been so hard to type 'police' ? Obviously you are another product of this liberated age, who show little respect for authority.
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I doubt the girl's as traumatised as mummy dearest is making out, and I'm not defending her actions, but she's a young girl for goodness sake, and I find the heavy-handed tactics of the security guards and police appalling. Whatever happened to common sense? Still, I suppose a scared 12 year old girl is an easy target for venting their frustrations. So much less trouble than a couple of aggressive drunken 'hoodies', eh guys?
One other thing, can't Boots have a couple of clearly marked "sample" bottles on the shelf and if not, why not? Surely that would avoid such confusion, unpleasantness and resulting bad publicity from happening. Or are Boots more worried about this eating into their precious profits, which stood at a mere �603 million in March 2008, up just 20% or so on last year?
One other thing, can't Boots have a couple of clearly marked "sample" bottles on the shelf and if not, why not? Surely that would avoid such confusion, unpleasantness and resulting bad publicity from happening. Or are Boots more worried about this eating into their precious profits, which stood at a mere �603 million in March 2008, up just 20% or so on last year?
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I thought you had to take the goods off the shop premises for it to be classed as stealing.
Has the law been changed?
So if you went into a shop and ate a load of food and then left without paying, presumably you would think this okay?
The Theft Act 1968 Section1 (1) states that a person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
Has the law been changed?
So if you went into a shop and ate a load of food and then left without paying, presumably you would think this okay?
The Theft Act 1968 Section1 (1) states that a person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
Never been scrumping, Oneeyedvic?
Yep - and shot at by a farmer (he was probably just trying to scare us, but at 10 years old, I am sure it missed us by a whisker!).
Should my parents have gone to the paper accusing the farmer of attempted murder?
Actually, I never told my parents as I would have been beaten for it.
She did something wrong, she was caught. She should face up to her responsibility.
If I get a parking ticket or get clamped, I don't particularly fly of the handle and blame everyone. Of course I get annoyed, but at myself and my own behaviour. I take responsibility for my own actions.
Yep - and shot at by a farmer (he was probably just trying to scare us, but at 10 years old, I am sure it missed us by a whisker!).
Should my parents have gone to the paper accusing the farmer of attempted murder?
Actually, I never told my parents as I would have been beaten for it.
She did something wrong, she was caught. She should face up to her responsibility.
If I get a parking ticket or get clamped, I don't particularly fly of the handle and blame everyone. Of course I get annoyed, but at myself and my own behaviour. I take responsibility for my own actions.
Most town centres have a lot of police officers about - if it was quiet, then it is quite 'normal' to get three (you would rarely get one as they tend to be paired). It is probable that one of the officers was shadowing the others.
Do you also really believe the Mail headline that they interrogated her? Shone a lamp in her face and roughed her up a bit? Why use such an emotive word?
Also bear in mind that they probably did not know what the girl's age was, who she was with etc. Remember, two police officers were assaulted last week for trying to stop a youth from littering.
If a crime is reported (which it obviously was by the security guard), should the police not attend?
Do you think she did nothing wrong and should have been immediately set free with no word of caution?
Do you also really believe the Mail headline that they interrogated her? Shone a lamp in her face and roughed her up a bit? Why use such an emotive word?
Also bear in mind that they probably did not know what the girl's age was, who she was with etc. Remember, two police officers were assaulted last week for trying to stop a youth from littering.
If a crime is reported (which it obviously was by the security guard), should the police not attend?
Do you think she did nothing wrong and should have been immediately set free with no word of caution?
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