History and Blair!

[sag]

Never in a million years will your husband come up to being likened to Churchill, Cherie! Still living in cloud cuckoo land I see.

[jake-the-peg]

Oh dear Cherie's compared Tony to the Tory Poster Boy and upset the right.

Cue long discussion on the merits and de-merits of Churchill and long dull monologues on how the country would never be in this mess if he were still in charge!

Yawn!

[Gromit]

There won't be a nodding dog advertising car insurance called Blair in 50 years time.

[jake-the-peg]

"my fellow leaders - will you not follow-ify US troops into Iraq?"

"Ooooh Yesss"

[vehelpfulguy]

Funnily enough if Churchill had died in say 1939, just before the second world war, he would hardly be remembered today.

He had not excelled himself as a politician before that date.

It is only his period as PM during the war that has elavated him to hero.

Mind you, he certainly knew how to put a rousing speech together.

We shall fight them on the beaches.....

Never in the field of human conflict.......

I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat....

[vehelpfulguy]

>There won't be a nodding dog advertising car insurance >called Blair in 50 years time.

Funnily enough

I just searching Google for "Churchill" and the first 4 hits that came up were for insurance !

[jake-the-peg]

But what exactly did Churchill do in the war to give him this status

Other than make speeches?

[Gromit]

He hrank a lot of wine, built a wall in his garden and did a bit of painting?

[Gromit]

I've had a frew glashes myshelf. hic.

Apparently, Bush has a nodding poodle called Blair in the Presidential Limo.

[jno]

Blair didn't cause the deaths of great numbers of Australians, unlike Churchill. Good or bad?

[BertiWooster]

He , Churchill had some good '' put downs''


'' If I were married to you, I�d put poison in your coffee''
- - - Lady Astor (to Winston Churchill)

'' If you were my wife, I�d drink it.''
- - - Winston Churchill, in reply

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'' Sir, you're drunk!"
--- Lady Astor to Churchill

"Yes, Madam, I am. But in the morning, I will be sober and you will still be ugly."
-- Churchill to lady Astor

[terambulan]

Dont hear much of Cherie doing her legal work anymore?

[rov1200]

For all his efforts Churchill almost died penniless. His son had to sell personal documents of his father (was it for �13 million). Blair on the otherhand sold this country out but made sure he will enter the Times richest list.

[jake-the-peg]

I'd be surprised rov

Last I heard he was rather strapped for cash after buying an expenive house - Doh!

And he'd got an advisor position to an American Finance house - double, Doh!

You have to be careful about painting people Black and white

Churhill - Heroic war leader - also disasterous chancellor andarchitect of Gallipoli

Blair- Iraq but also peace in Northern Ireland

They are not cartoon cut outs in a Hollywood movie

[Kromovaracun]

also disasterous chancellor andarchitect of Gallipoli

Gallipoli wasn't an inherently bad idea. It just sort of went wrong. That happens sometimes in the army - and the top guys aren't always to blame. It's a similar scenario for Churchill's support for the Italian invasion in WW2 - it wasn't a bad idea, it just didn't work.

Plus, the Gold Standard was a disaster but you can't really criticise him for not having a crystal ball.

Churchill's often (bizarrely) criticised for his record before his wartime premiership, but the only real blot on it that you can really say was a screw-up on his part was the Tonypandy riot.