Family & Relationships4 mins ago
Compulsory sex education......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7684810.s tm
Why is it necessary to destroy the innocence of our kids because a few chav tarts can't keep their knees together?
Why is it necessary to destroy the innocence of our kids because a few chav tarts can't keep their knees together?
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Gromit, there is sex education already, in secondary school. The underage pregancies are dispite this. Are you saying that when they did the practical behind the bike sheds that didn't realise they could get up the duff? They are after all menstuating and even if they knew nowt about it that would make them find out. I don't see how sexualising 5 year olds stops teenage slappers getting knocked up.
What to you mean sexualising 5 year olds?
What is wrong with children knowing where babies come from - I don't think a 5 year old needs to know about contraception etc. but that all comes at the appropriate time.
Half the kids nowadays don't even know where potatoes come from much less babies. It is not the schools job - it is societies job to ensure that our children know what they need to know at the time they need to know it. If parents cop out then school is all that kids are left with (or self experimentation)
What is wrong with children knowing where babies come from - I don't think a 5 year old needs to know about contraception etc. but that all comes at the appropriate time.
Half the kids nowadays don't even know where potatoes come from much less babies. It is not the schools job - it is societies job to ensure that our children know what they need to know at the time they need to know it. If parents cop out then school is all that kids are left with (or self experimentation)
Agree Petal. It's all part of parenting, but I suppose that can come under the umbrella of education - just not formal education.
I can't remember not knowing about sex and knew about contraception and STD's way, way before I was ready for sex myself. The only sex education I had at school was related to rabbits!! I had good, caring parents to talk to me and guide me through life.
OK Quinlad I take your point - so "I don't see why we should have to accept sex education at a very young age in primary schools.................................." Which takes me back to saying I agree with Flip flop!!
Secondary Schools have been giving sex education lessons for years.
I can't remember not knowing about sex and knew about contraception and STD's way, way before I was ready for sex myself. The only sex education I had at school was related to rabbits!! I had good, caring parents to talk to me and guide me through life.
OK Quinlad I take your point - so "I don't see why we should have to accept sex education at a very young age in primary schools.................................." Which takes me back to saying I agree with Flip flop!!
Secondary Schools have been giving sex education lessons for years.
In Scotland we get formal sex education in Primary 5 or 6 - that works out at year 6 or 7 in England I think - P5s will be age 9-10, P6s age 10-11. Have had since I was that age over 30 years ago. It was seen as really embarrasing and they had a separate teacher that came in to do it. I think that this is wrong. It segregates it from normal education and my parents didn't teach us anything at all as they were too embarassed - I think through my teenage years I saw it as something embarassing and not normal rather than a natural part of grwing up. I am determined that my kids will never feel like that, but will be aware enough that they should be an adult before they indulge!
Half of my post at 11.45 went missing.
I had said that I don't think sex education in schools will make any difference at all to teenage pregnancies and STD. Kids are fully aware about these things but still go ahead and have unprotected sex. Just go around any town and look at the amount of kids pushing prams these days. No stigma involved at all. Society accepts it. They don't see anything wrong with it - it's normal.
I had said that I don't think sex education in schools will make any difference at all to teenage pregnancies and STD. Kids are fully aware about these things but still go ahead and have unprotected sex. Just go around any town and look at the amount of kids pushing prams these days. No stigma involved at all. Society accepts it. They don't see anything wrong with it - it's normal.
Mentality. I don't advocate sex education to young children in primary schools. By nine or ten years old at the latest children should all be aware of basic reproduction taught by parents, so if sex education in school reinforces that so to me that's fine.
I do not think it is suitable for five years olds to receive sex education outside of their home and family where it can be given when the child shows signs of interest and the right amount of info can be given according to the needs of the child and the ability to understand.
I do not think it is suitable for five years olds to receive sex education outside of their home and family where it can be given when the child shows signs of interest and the right amount of info can be given according to the needs of the child and the ability to understand.
I don't know for sure, and if I am wrong I am sure somebody will be able to correct me, but I strongly suspect most, not all, but most teenage pregnancies are the product of chavs having sex.
14 and 15 year old chavs will, I suspect in many instances, also be the product of teenage pregnancies, so it is simply a case of monkey see monkey do.
Sex education will never stop this happening.
Whatever, any level of formal sex education for a 5 year old is wrong. This is not head burying and I don't advocate The Stork - A cosy little chat with mummy or daddy saying babies come from a mummies tummy is one thing, but for a 5 year old a formal curriculum lead sex lesson is wrong.
10 year olds - fine, 5 year olds, definitely not.
14 and 15 year old chavs will, I suspect in many instances, also be the product of teenage pregnancies, so it is simply a case of monkey see monkey do.
Sex education will never stop this happening.
Whatever, any level of formal sex education for a 5 year old is wrong. This is not head burying and I don't advocate The Stork - A cosy little chat with mummy or daddy saying babies come from a mummies tummy is one thing, but for a 5 year old a formal curriculum lead sex lesson is wrong.
10 year olds - fine, 5 year olds, definitely not.
I so agree flip flop. However, one of my children wanted far more detail when he was only three years old. I made it as simple as possible but did give him the information he required!! ;o) What one child can cope with and understand might be very different from another. If they ask whilst they are very young then they should be told, if not then no problem.
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5 YEAR OLDS WILL NOT BE TAUGHT ABOUT SEX
Today Mr Knight said that although it will be compulsory to teach personal, social and health matters in schools, that did not mean young children will be �taught sex�.
He said: �We want to be clear we�re not talking about five-year-olds being taught about sex. At Key Stage 1 they will be learning about themselves, their differences, their friendships, how to have strong friendships and how to manage their feelings.
5 YEAR OLDS WILL NOT BE TAUGHT ABOUT SEX
Today Mr Knight said that although it will be compulsory to teach personal, social and health matters in schools, that did not mean young children will be �taught sex�.
He said: �We want to be clear we�re not talking about five-year-olds being taught about sex. At Key Stage 1 they will be learning about themselves, their differences, their friendships, how to have strong friendships and how to manage their feelings.
A similar quote;
Mr Knight told BBC News: "We are not suggesting that five and six-year-olds should be taught sex.
"What we are saying is we need to improve in particular the relationship education, improve the moral framework and moral understanding around which we then talk about sex later on in a child's education."
Mr Knight told BBC News: "We are not suggesting that five and six-year-olds should be taught sex.
"What we are saying is we need to improve in particular the relationship education, improve the moral framework and moral understanding around which we then talk about sex later on in a child's education."
My nephew is 10. He did sex education at the start of term. He knows all about STD's, where babies come from and pretty much all of it. I was very surprised at how much his class were taught. When I was at school, I only had an 8mm film about insects mating when I was 12 and 2 hours in Biology in year 10. That was it!
However, too many parents still say nothing about sex to their children. Those same parents on here who think their childs innocence should last until they are ready to let them go are usually the same parents presented with the award of being a grandparent during their son/daughters teenage years.
The problem is that each parent is different. Some will be open with sex to a 10 year old. Others (and this is someone I know) is currently in an argument with his 16 year old daughter over the fact that she has a same age boyfriend. He thinks 16 is too young for boyfriends. She wasn't even allowed to go to her school leaving prom because it finished at 10 (1 hour 45 minutes later than her curfew time).
Each child should be taught the same about sex/relationships, but from a sensible age. I would say 10-11 is about right with refresher courses during each subsequent year.
However, too many parents still say nothing about sex to their children. Those same parents on here who think their childs innocence should last until they are ready to let them go are usually the same parents presented with the award of being a grandparent during their son/daughters teenage years.
The problem is that each parent is different. Some will be open with sex to a 10 year old. Others (and this is someone I know) is currently in an argument with his 16 year old daughter over the fact that she has a same age boyfriend. He thinks 16 is too young for boyfriends. She wasn't even allowed to go to her school leaving prom because it finished at 10 (1 hour 45 minutes later than her curfew time).
Each child should be taught the same about sex/relationships, but from a sensible age. I would say 10-11 is about right with refresher courses during each subsequent year.
I don't see anyone on this thread who is suggesting that children should remain innocent and have no knowledge of sex until they (the parents) are ready to let them go!?
And as yet, with children in their mid-twenties I haven't been presented with any grandchildren and my children certainly haven't been under my control for many years - they were taught to be independent and think for themselves.
Little kids should not be presented with information about sex that is not understandable to them. I am sure that is basically what people mean when they talk about protecting their innocence. A parent should know best when their child is ready to absorb facts and should be governed by the child's questions and interest.
And as yet, with children in their mid-twenties I haven't been presented with any grandchildren and my children certainly haven't been under my control for many years - they were taught to be independent and think for themselves.
Little kids should not be presented with information about sex that is not understandable to them. I am sure that is basically what people mean when they talk about protecting their innocence. A parent should know best when their child is ready to absorb facts and should be governed by the child's questions and interest.
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