Was I being insensitive?

[anotheoldgit]

A few days ago I entered into a discussion entitled
Faith & Hope conjoined twins..

Regrettably I was incorrectly accused of being insensitive.

I would now like to address all those who accused me and ask them if they have noticed the 'Mail on Sunday' logo in the corner of the photograph of the twins?

Could it be that the couple have sold the rights of this photograph and my have also employed the likes of Max Clifford to act as their agent to sell their story?

Now this is what I call insensitive, but not on my part.

[LoftyLottie]

I do understand the lack of funds and problems of the NHS by the way, and it saddens me.

[sqad617]

Lofty

"This is what the NHS is about. Is this such a terrible thing to expect."
No lofty it is not a terrble thing to EXPECT, but the NHS can't afford it.

"If the NHS has changed its whole philosophy well why not be honest, scrap the NHS and make us all go private."

You are an intelligent woman lofty and you know quite well the answer to that........the political party who suggested that would NEVER get into government.

[sqad617]

1948..inception of the NHS will provide free healthcare and dental care for all regardless of ability to pay.

2008..Try getting an NHS dentist.

[Tups]

I don't know what you said anotheroldgit, I can't seem to find your initial posting, but I, too, started a thread about these unfortunate twins. I only interest I provoked was against early abortion. I actually feel quite angry that this 18 year old, hardly more than a child herself, wasn't persuaded (not forced, persuaded) to have an early abortion, when, at 12 weeks, the twins' development was minimal. Look what resulted: first and foremost, both the little babies had to go through a gruelling experience, one of them had to die and the parents, too, presumably, were traumatised. And yes, I WILL mention all that mention and expertise that had to be used on trying to save them when NHS resources are already overstretched.

Yes, there is one little baby who has survived and readers may well consider all the expense, trauma and suffering justifies the end - but does it?

[LoftyLottie]

But Squad, what was inferred is that the young couple that we were initially talking about were selfish, and only thinking of themselves!! Well, of course and only thinking of themselves and their children and not whether they were depriving others. And I challenge anyone who says they would be any different.

But I do see your point about the political party thing.

However, the only reason that we said AOG was insensitive is that he inferred that they were a young couple and could still have other children. To a female that is a very insensitive thing to say, as you can see by the response.

And I do agree with you on one thing, I am an intelligent woman ;o)

[sqad617]

lofty LOL LOL intelligent, attractive AND desirable. LOL

[LoftyLottie]

Tups I have put a link to the original question earlier in this thread. You will see that some of us did say that we would have opted for an early abortion. I certainly would have. However, this wouldn't have been to save the NHS costs - it would have been the last thing on my mind.

[LoftyLottie]

Squaddy - I wish but no only intelligent :o( . Perhaps once but not any more!!! I don't fool myself.

[Tups]

Sorry Loftie I can't find the link and I would like to read the original thread. Where is it?

[LoftyLottie]

Here it is Tups.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question66 6405.html

Oh dear, I posted it somewhere, I must have put it on the wrong thread - goodness knows where it went!!!

[smudge]

Yes, the Faith & Hope conjoined twins thread was posted by me, so please, do feel free to pop in & peruse.

I can't believe you would start up a thread on this AOG - just because I & others didn't agree with some of your comments on there.

I don't always agree with a lot of the comments I read on AB, but I wouldn't dream of starting up another thread to highlight them. Very childish!

Perhaps you should get on with your own life, the same as this poor young couple are trying to do, albeit a very sad one for them at the moment.

P.S. I haven't been on here since Wednesady, as I've been busy - yes, there is life out there....

[smudge]

*Wednesday

[anotheoldgit]

but cheer up love you�re only 18, you can have plenty more sprogs.

This is not what I said octavius, I would never dream of calling a children a spogs,
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smudge

Why do you have to be so nasty? I think that you are insensitive of people's feelings.

The reason I entered a new post was the fact that many do not read posts, if they are more than a couple of days old and I wanted those who called me insensitive to be aware of the point of the couple selling the rights to the Mail on Sunday.

Strangly enough a point that no one has yet chosen to address.

[anotheoldgit]

Please forgive the extra 'a' either side of children.

I first typed it singular and then changed it to plural but then forgot to delete the two 'a's.

[smudge]

AOG - I've never been nasty to anyone in my life & anyone who really knows me on & off AB would verify that - so I won't need to start up a thread pleading for backup!

The trouble is, you have no qualms in dishing out insensitive comments, but don't like it when people retaliate. That is your problem, not mine/ours!

P'raps that's why, as you say in your second from last post:

"Strangely enough a point that no one has yet chosen to address".

However, I do have the grace to wish you a pleasant evening!

[smudge]

Actually, I don't have to make excuses to you AOG, but please do remind yourself of the title & sentiments in my Faith & Hope conjoined twins thread (link on here).....very sensitive & very kind, even though I say it myself.

Bring out the trumpets......

[anotheoldgit]

Still not addressed my point about the Mail on Sunday.

Why, doesn't it fit into your caring sentiments?

Why did they find the need to sell the rights to a newspaper?

Money should have been the last thing on their minds, in their time of sadness.

[LoftyLottie]

Hi AOG,

I do not agree that they are being insensitive if they have sold their story. What I do believe is perhaps they can see that the money will help their little family. They haven't after all made any sensationalist claims or upset anybody to make their money - and after all it was all over the press anyway, they can't avoid publicity now, so may as well benefit from it.

LL

[terambulan]

I think these parents were thinking more of the fame and wealth than the welfare of their babies.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WdAEA3MrUhk&feat ure=related

These two bruvs appear to be constantly battling with each other as on tv; and were shown with black eyes etc.

[smudge]

Hello again AOG - another busy day!

In answer to your last post/questions:

The Mail on Sunday - I read todays Mail on Sunday & just looking at the photo's & reading what this young couple have had to endure in the last few days (as the young mother also recouperates from her operation), brought even more tears to my eyes.

My caring sentiments - I don't have to explain mine any further, as it's patently obvious what they are.

Selling their rights to the newspaper - The money they receive for their story, may help them & their poorly baby get through this harrowing time & over any forthcoming hurdles.

Money should have been the last thing on their minds in this time of sadness - I'm sure it was/is. P'raps it's you who's looking into it too much AOG!