Iraq Oil

[Ankou]

Ok, this isn't a Daily Mail Link so please forgive my temerity.

Is this right for us now - economic return etc - or was this the plan all along and just your usual destroy it then charge to make it better?

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idU SLU95171220090430

Just looking at opinions really, no slanging matches if you will....

[anotheoldgit]

If you don't want slanging matches, don't start your question off with sarcastic remarks.

[Ankou]

Ok, you can have a barney if you feel inclined

[youngmafbog]

Yawn, hasnt this been thrashed to death.

Are you an anti war protestor or anti american by any chance.

[Ankou]

so ignore the question then, numpty

[jake-the-peg]

I don't think the original invasion was prompted by oil. I think it was much more basic and personal than that.

There was definately a plan/scheme/plot call it what you will at one point after the invasion. That involved Iraqi oil being used to fund reconstruction at inflated prices to US and some UK companies without competetive tender.

Basically the Americans going on a shopping expedition with Iraq's wallet in their own store.

That seemed to fail mostly due to the security situation.

This latest business does not look like the same thing as the Iraqis appear to have a free hand and can ask for competetive tender from any country without restriction.

The UK is just bidding for the business, the Iraqi government can say "No"

Of course if there are any restrictions or external pressures on how Iraq can spend it's own oil money that'd be different.

[paraffin]

What??? We weren't just there solely to rid the world of a bloodthirsty dictator and his WMDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel such a fool now for having believed that nice Mr Blair !!!

[jake-the-peg]

I think we (UK as opposed to the US) were there because Bush blackmailed Blair into joining in the game.

I rather think there was a "with us or against us" conversation involving UK US military and intelligence co-operation.

Blair tried to drag his feet at the UN as you may recall but then Cloin Powell gave his little power point ( which he now regrets he says) and swung it.

I don't for a moment expect to ever see confirmation of this. I expect that it's well tied up in the 100 years rule

But that's what I think happened

[maxximus]

so, if iraq had the world's third largest supply of, let's say carrotts or onions, we'd be still be over there promoting freedom and democracy. i've got that right have i

[Ankou]

Thanks for taking the time to answer. Whilst I think the war was based on dubious information and intent, I am not entirely anti. And I�m not anti-US either. Why do you people have to be so aggressive and pigeon hole everyone as for you or against you?

I don�t really believe our presence there was necessary nor justified, but since we were there and it cost us a lot of money and lives to be there, I don�t see any reason why we shouldn�t get something out of it economically.

If we (the British) didn�t then you could be damn sure the Americans, French and Germans would be swooping in to nibble on the carrion.

[maxximus]

so the war was based on as you say dubious informatian and 1.5 million or so men , women and children are dead. glad to know your not anti-anybody but you still feel it's okay to nip in for a nibble of something or other. nice!

[Ankou]

yes, my point being rather us than the other nations. and your point was what exactly....?

[maxximus]

we'll just gloss over all them dead people then, like a big free for all yard sale or something. every nation for themselves so to speak .lovely, i like your style!! i'll have to have you over, i'll make sure i stay awake.

[Ankou]

whats done is done. what do you propose then, we just walk away and let the French, Germans and Americans get a snifter of any contracts regarding oil reserves or rebuilding programmes?

[maxximus]

you left out the dutch! the contracts where signed before it began, before the dead people. apparentely your okay with that!

[jake-the-peg]

so, if iraq had the world's third largest supply of, let's say carrotts or onions, we'd be still be over there promoting freedom and democracy. i've got that right have i

How much oil is in Afghanistan?

[Ankou]

maxximus, you are saying a lot without saying anything. what do you propose then, we walk away and leave the other vultures to it?

[maxximus]

afghanistan is the key to removing oil via pipeline.

[maxximus]

apologies, forgot to mention the eradicated by the taliban and producing 900% since being invaded poppy crops. funny how that one works (war on drugs and all) but who's paying attention cash is always good, pays for all that good old sectarian violence when your stirring the pot in someone elses kitchen.just keep reading the paper, we're trying to nip this kind of stuff in the bud, right. but there's still a lot of work to be done. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context =va&aid=13325