Military state run schools?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-117850 8/Right-fall-line-orrible-little-pupils-Govern ment-wants-military-run-state-schools.html

Is this at last a long awaited incentive, that will instil some discipline into our young?

Or is it one gentle step towards National Service?

Good idea or not?

[zzxxee]

fantastic idea bring back national service didnt do the criminals on bad lads army any harm

[jno]

Great idea, training the younger generation in the use of firearms. That's what this nation needs, gangsters who are better marksmen.

oldgit, if I may change the subject for a moment, you posted a Q about changing skin colours, but I can't now find where it was. I came across something last night that was related and I found interesting. Basically, a volcanic eruption 70,000 years ago came close to wiping out humanity and created an instant ice age for several years. The thinking is that with only 1,000 or so breeding couples left worldwide this would have made random genetic changes much quicker to spread.

http://geology.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.ht m?zi=1/XJ&sdn=geology&cdn=education&tm=37&f=00 &tt=12&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.bradshawfoun dation.com/evolution/

[eyeshade]

It will never get off the ground, although an exciting prospect to actually think youngsters may actually learn some respect and have some discipline in their lives. But I can't see it happening.

[paraffin]

No need to go to such lengths. Just re-introduce corporal punishment, that'll soon restore discipline. It's the only way.

And to use a well worn cliche "It did me no harm". It did not turn me into a yob, a criminal, a wife or child beater, or a psychologically disturbed individual.

It actually taught me respect. Bring it on. Simple solution. Empower the teachers. They've suffered long enough. Let's get our priorities right in this country for once.

Spare the rod and spoil the child - never a truer expression!

[Scarramouch]

the forces were well prepared for national service after the war. They were large enough to cope. Unfortunately they couldn't today. There is hardly sufficient barracks equipment infrastructure or training personnel to cope with what we have now.

[vulcan]

an excellent idea,except-
the article states" the sources also stressed that no pupil would be forced to take part in any activity against their will".
where is the discipline in that ?

[anotheoldgit]

Ah! missed that vulcan.

Yes, get the 'Human Rights', 'Elf n Safety' and the 'non competitive sports' brigades round it, and it all flies out of the window.

[anotheoldgit]

jno Takes a little time to get one's head round it, but I think I can see where they are coming from, but how do they know?

[DSnewsKE]

Great idea. Anyone noticed that it's always the army lads who want to kick your head in at the weekends.

[Booldawg]

No DK. You must have a habit of rubbing people up the wrong way.

I live in an army town and find the soldiers are the well behaved ones. The RSM will come down alot harder on them than civvy police and they know it!

[paraffin]

That's not fair, aog. You're a staunch traditionalist and you haven't given me 3 stars for my astute suggestion that we should resume a highly effective tradition from my (and, I suspect, your!) schooldays.

I expect it was an innocent oversight on your part, eh? Put them on and I'll forgive you. Promise!

[jno]

I imagine it's all guesswork, oldgit, but I think DNA studies can demonstrate (presumably with a pretty big margin for error) how closely we are all related. They can also work out from the size of a crater how much dust would have been blown into the atmosphere, and presumably by comparing it with explosions like Krakatoa, which are well within recorded history, estimate what the effect on the climate might have been.

What surprises me is that I've never heard any of this before; scientists still mostly talk as though our common ancestors were in Africa many millennia earlier, without hinting that the human race was basically refounded very recently. So I don't know how reliable this theory is. It sounds interesting, though.

[Lonnie]

Bring back National Service, yes, but state run military schools, no,

If the Goverment get away with this, the next thing will be a Militia, and the youngsters from these schools will be it.

Take a look at this Goverment, and the direction its been going, you now have a politicised police force, and the more power they have over us, the better, for them.

[1rovert]

Typical labour.

I think hitler thought of it first.

Does 'hitler youth' jog any memories?

[jno]

oldgit, further to my off-topic remarks, I hope you are watching this programme

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kfqps

as it seems specifically designed to answer your question about where we came from and how different races came to be. Surprisingly, the gist of it so far is that the exodus from Africa consisted of only one tribe of a few hundred people who apparently got lucky crossing the bottom of the Red Sea when it was narrower, 100,000 years ago; everyone now is descended from them.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

Seems pretty riveting stuff, if it is true then man certainly travelled around a bit in those days.

Obviously the same people did not traverse the whole earth, they must have gone so far, and their ancestors a little further and so on.

It makes one ask the question why?

[jno]

exactly what I was wondering, oldgit. I read somewhere that they didn't actually move very much - a few feet a year would have done it. But as there don't seem to have been many people around, it can't have been overcrowded, so why move at all? Maybe future episodes will explain. Meanwhile, I'd be grateful if she said 'incredible' slightly less often.