Muslim domination cont:

[rov1200]

I have a relative who is C/E and about to marry a Muslim. Although he says that religion is not his strong point insists that his children are brought up in the Muslim tradition. Is she right to accede to his demands?

[JockSporran]

Yes. It's her choice. If she feels really strongly about her own religious beliefs and that the children should be brought up as Christians, then she should reconsider the relationship before tying the knot. If she doesn't feel too strongly about it, then there's no problem. Either way it's her choice and no concern of yours.

[TCL-MUMPING]

It seems by the question heading that you do not agree. Does she have any strong feelings about the Christian faith? Is she a regular church-goer? What is it that concerns you exactly? Have you even discussed this with her?

[Julnar]

Your relative doesn't seem to be particularly religious, so it shouldn't be a problem, but she still needs to look at some of the pitfalls that have occurred in such marriages previously. Will she be comfortable if her husband should decide to arrange a future daughters marriage and how will she feel if she and her husband divorce and he decides to abscond back to his country of origin with their young children, who may be deemed more his than hers in said country. (That's making an enormous assumption that he isn' t British born by the way.)

[TCL-MUMPING]

As opposed to say, a foreign-born Christian who may do the very same thing?

[sara3]

can you not just be happy for two people who are happy enough to want to get married? she obviously knows of his religious beliefs, and they've been sensible enough to discuss this in advance.

I wish them every happiness.. there's not enough of it about!

[jackthehat]

There is more than just the 'faith' aspect to this..........

The children will become fully-rounded muslims, and they will see their Mum as the odd-one-out.........

There have been some posts about this in R&S, please look them out............

[rov1200]

A lot of people including the Archbishop of Canturbury just don't get it. People are not voting specifically for BNP for MPs expenses issue but how Muslims are taking over from christian beliefs. Nick Griffin BNP in his poster is saying just that. That is also the core issue of this posting.
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'The British National Party has dismissed an appeal by senior Anglican church leaders for voters to boycott the party at next month's elections.

The archbishops of Canterbury and York are urging people not to let anger over the MPs' expenses scandal drive them to vote for the party'

[Oneeyedvic]

A lot of people including the Archbishop of Canturbury just don't get it. People are not voting specifically for BNP for MPs expenses issue but how Muslims are taking over from christian beliefs

Yes, why would the head of the Church 'get it' or understand the issues regarding religion. I mean, anyone would think it would be his job or something.

I am sure ROV, that you have a much better grip on how many people attend church, how many Muslims immigrate tot his country etc etc

[kinell]

anyone so feeble minded to attach any importance to religion must surely be lucky to find someone daft enough to want to marry them,

god luck to them

[keyplus90]

One think I am unable to understand here. What a marriage between two people of different religion or belief has to do with voting BNP?

[R1Geezer]

Just make sure she is aware of the muslim traditions of child rape, female genital mutilation, honour killings, forced marriages etc and then she'll be aware of what she's letting herself in for, if she still goes ahead it's her children that deserve our sympathy, especially any that have the mis fortune to be female.

[sp1814]

Could be worse - if he were a Catholic, there would be the regular rapings with the subsequent cover-ups by the Church.

Only kidding. Best of luck to your relative rov100. I'm sure that with the love and support you'll be giving to her and her husband to be, they'll have a very happy time together.

I salute their bravery. There's so much nasty prejudice against mixed marraiges (from both sides), that it's heartwarming to hear of a couple who metaphorically stick two fingers up to bigotry.

My hats off to them.

[anotheoldgit]

insists that his children are brought up in the Muslim tradition. Is she right to accede to his demands?

Enough of this loving sentiment, regarding wishing them every happiness etc, etc.

Let's get to the core issue of this, He Insists

That is no way to start off a marriage, especially in the age when 'to love honour and obey' is frowned upon in the marriage vows.

To insist that any children are brought up in the Muslim tradition, is all being rather arrogant, selfish and one sided, on his part. If they plan to have a happy married life, then each one should have equal choices.

No I think to start off a marriage on this Muslim's insistences is heading for a disastrous marriage.

[sp1814]

AOG

Not true.

Full stop.

[Oneeyedvic]

AOG can I ask if you are married?

I ask as before I entered marriage, I knew my wife pretty well. There were certain things that we agreed on, some things that we disagreed on but nothing strong enough that could cause us problems in the future (touch wood).

If we had children together which we don't), I would insist that they went to a private school or were home taught. Would this mean that we would have a bad marriage?

Seems to me that they are sensible talking about these things now rather than later.

It is obviously a very high priority to the man, and presumably not a high priority to the woman.

[rov1200]

It was probably wrong of me to quote an individuals circumstances but if the other postings in the news section had been read it would put it in more context.

Two items stand out: one states that 25% of the babies born in the UK from foreign mothers. Another is that the birth rate of Muslims is 4 times that of the ordinary British citizen. Extrapolated they would assume dominance within about 20 years.

Now take the recent disputes in Luton where British citizens are protesting because of the lack of respect shown by muslims to our returning troops. Harmony has to be attacked from both sides.

[Oneeyedvic]

Two items stand out: one states that 25% of the babies born in the UK from foreign mothers. Another is that the birth rate of Muslims is 4 times that of the ordinary British citizen. Extrapolated they would assume dominance within about 20 years.

One of the reasons that 25% of babies born in the UK have at least one foreign parent (note not mother) is that Muslims (as well as Catholic) people have more children. You can't use both figures as the later set make the former set.

(which means that you extrapolation does not work)