What should we do to stop the B.N.P?

[123everton]

Vote?

[steg]

salspotters
what has that got to do with the SNP ?

[another-view]

Depends where they originated from obviously.

[salspotters]

steg
Same as when a Black person gets attacked and insulted


Blame the BNP ?

[sp1814]

another-view

Eh?

I don't get what you mean.

That's like saying, "If your name is Colin Smith or Paul Jones then you're British, but if your name is Sophie Delacoux, then you're French...even if you were born here and your mum was born here and your grandparents came here as kids".

If you're born in the UK from parents who were born here, or who have leave to remain, you're British.

I think it's a terribly slippery slope to start thinking of people as less that British because of things as trivial as their names, accent or dress.

[another-view]

Cliff Richard was born in India. Would you class him as being Indian?

[steg]

hmm, i see.

[123everton]

AOG I picked on you as you're the most vociferous Isloamophobe I can recall instantly.
If you're Asian and of British origin the notion of "Britishness" with references to stables etc. would make one feel that no matter what I say no matter what I do I'll always be a P@ki to you.
Mencius said "angy words beget angry words" similarly a shift to extremist parties will bring in extremist responses,.
The policies of the B.N.P are alien to the British way of life, neither you or I support the B.N.P but we both support their right to stand.
Does that also go for Jamaal Islamia?
As it's the same meat just a slightly different gravy....

[sp1814]

another-view

No...he's British. He has a British passport.

If he had an Indian passport. This is about nationality, not race or creed.

I would also characterise him as being quintessentially 'English' too.

[another-view]

Exactly, he is British. Just because he was born in India doesn't make him Indian. The same applies in reverse to Sophie Delacroix or Jamal Abdullah.

[The Sherman]

so another view if an asian is born with a british girls name and then marries and takes a british surname are they allowed to stay?

[another-view]

No, as you have clearly stated that they are Asian.

[sp1814]

another-view

Nope...he's British becuase he has a British passport, not because of where he was born. His parents didn't have Indian passports, so he couldn't have one.

Had his parents been naturalised Indians, and had Indian passports, he too would be Indian.

I've been thinking about this, and I believe I have the answer.

In terms of culture, traditions, origins etc, Mr Mumtaz Patel may be 'Indian', but in terms of nationality, he's as British as you or I.

It's

[sp1814]

another-view

Asian isn't a nationality. It's a racial background.

It might sound like semantics, but these are very important points.

[another-view]

His parents didn't have one because they too were British.
It doesn't matter where he was born, he is still British.
Yes if they were Indian then he would be too.

I agree with you.

Mr Mumtaz Patel is not British. He is Indian, as he follows Inidan traditions, customs etc and comes from Indian heritage.

[another-view]

Well from which country is the Asian that The Sherman speaks of?

[anotheoldgit]

The policies of the B.N.P are alien to the British way of life, neither you or I support the B.N.P but we both support their right to stand.

Does that also go for Jamaal Islamia?

As it's the same meat just a slightly different gravy....

No because they are neither the same meat or gravy, Jamal Islamia, is a foreign terrorist organization linked to al Qaeda.

Unlike the BNP who don't even throw eggs at people.

[DrFilth]

if all the asian people left england who would make the curry


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a man cannot live on spare ribs alone

[Claud.Butler]

Absolutely nothing. If they get enough votes they have as much right as anyone else to speak in the European Parliament.
'Free speech for everybody except my opponents', is hardly free speech.

[another-view]

Exactly Claud. They were fairly and squarely voted in. The people have spoken.

[DrFilth]

well said claud and the english chippy does not sell a decent madrass .


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