Hard Labour... now you're talking......!

[R1Geezer]

Not often I praise North Korea but I'm certainly envious of their penal system. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/811953 6.stm Why can't we have similar for our criminal scum? Burglary? 5 years hard labour? Just right!
BGB's are available for this question!

[Gromit]

You'd like the Sharia law practiced in Saudi Arabia.

They chop people hands off don't you know.

[123everton]

These gulags are basically places were people are worked to death.
Although I do feel a more austere environment would work wonders in the prisons we possess, I still feel we have nothing to learn from the D.P.R.K.

[R1Geezer]

yes but I bet they don't have yobs with 20 burglaries to their name still getting community service!

[123everton]

You don't see much in the way of yobbish behaviour in China (which I've travelled extensively in) when you look at your question below and view it in relation to China and the criticism it recieves internationally for human rights etc. I have to ask, how do you build a country?
In 1949 China's economy was on a par with modern Africa, look at it now, and that's without charitable aid.
Is their way the right way?

[youngmafbog]

We could certainly learn a thing or two. Bet they dont get murderers killing people again after being released after 5 years by some right on Parole Board eh R1?

I wonder if they would like to do some outsourcing for the UK. I alwasy had in mind Turkey or Thai but this seems even better.

[youngmafbog]

Sharia law does have its plus points. Quite a few of them actually.

Apart from the a*se to the West three times a day and no boozing I erckon the rest is spot on.

[Gromit]

A lot of peoples pre-conception of Turkey and its penal system is based on the film Midnight Express, which was based on a 1977 book by Billy Hayes of his real life experience in jail for drug smuggling.

The film varies greatly from the book, with the scenes of captivity made more harsh and brutal than was actually experience by Hayes in real life

The author has since apologised to Turkey for the negative portrayal of Turkey and its people in the film.

[R1Geezer]

Thanks for that Gromit. Looks like we are out sourceing to North Korean Gulags then YMB! Come the glorious day!

[Quinlad]

It's always better to jerk the knee that conduct scientific study. Especially on criminal justice.

"Well, if the deterrant was flogging/amputation/a lifetime in prison/hanging, they wouldn't commit the crime would they...?"

[flip_flop]

Geezer - am being particularly slow today, more so than usual, on account of Rioja!

What does BGB stand for?

[Gromit]

flip_flop

BGB = Blue Geezer Badge

Highly sought after accolade for posting the most obvious stupid answer.

[Gromit]

Prison should not be about revenge it should be used to re-educate and rehabilitate wrong doers. Brutality will just make them worse.

[R1Geezer]

B0llux, that's how we got here gromit. If they got 5 years hard labour, the criminal scum would think twice about doing it again. For the few that it doesn't deter will get worked to death anyway. Sorry guys you've had your Butlins era it's time for proper punishments. Forget rehab, criminal scum laugh at the law.

[Gromit]

That was my attempt at a BGB. Did I fail? :-(

[R1Geezer]

sorry Gromit, forgive me, BGB is duly awarded! Well I may have to issue a GGB for that level of answer!

[paraffin]

Geezer:

Would that apply to all "our criminal scum"? Or only for those north of the border?

[R1Geezer]

all of them I don't discriminate

[paraffin]

You're far too magnanimous.