Another result of the last 40 years of the liberel "project"

[R1Geezer]

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Has the removal of any respect and tools of control from teachers finally made a good hard working teacher finally snap and brain one of the little sh1t bags?

[craft1948]

Well something seems to have gone badly wrong as I understand he is a highly rated teacher. Good teachers have my utmost respect, unfortunately there does seem to be a lot of bad ones around. I couldn't do the job.........I'd nuke the little darlings.....

[daffy654]

I have been wondering what the 3 boys who were injured did to make this teacher snap and attack them.I think there will be more to this story than is currently known/reported.

[DaisyMae]

As I understand it, the one who is in hospital swore at the teacher who snapped, picked up a metal weight and set about the lad. The other two (one a girl) tried to rescue the lad and pull the teacher off, they were slightly injured in the process.

[youngmafbog]

As you say R1 years of right on liberal thinking has trashed any respect for authority from youngsters.

High knife crime. gangs running riot and teachers at their wits end. These bloody liberals have alot to answer for.

Still the last laugh is on the BNP. The reaction of the majority is often extreme and the BNP is already seeing signs of this. So ironic that right on liberals are the best advertising the BNP could have but of course they cant see this through the rose tinites specticles and theri blasted muesli.

[craft1948]

Whatever happened to respect......
When I was young teachers were respected and if a note was sent home you were the recipient of a very thick ear.....nowadays the parent turns up and smacks the teacher.
There were problems back then in the 1950's and 60's but when I look at the youth of today (not all I hasten to add) I really despair......and the biggest contributors to the problems are the rubbish parents.

[daffy654]

Teachers have to put up with an awful lot of disrespect,foul language and even physical violence from both pupils and parents.I wouldn't do their job for 3 times what they earn!

[The Sherman]

so kids were well behaved before?
Cause I thought teachers had canes and whips to deal with kids that are naughty? which therefore means that kids didnt behave otherwise you wouldnt need such a tool?

[paraffin]

daffy + craft:
Spot on. I went to school at a time when corporal punishment was the order of the day. Not that it was liberally meted out, but there were certain marks you simply could not overstep, otherwise you ended up with stinging palms.

Parents were quite aware of what went on and you never had them rushing to the school threatening the teachers or the school with a lawsuit.

There are obviously lots of details still to be made public about what actually happened, and although it's regrettable that a teenager has been badly injured, there may be mitigating factors in the teacher's defence? We shall see.

[R1Geezer]

Who said kids where well behaved before? Teachers had ways of installing discipline, they don't have any now, the little darlings know this and play up, they know the teacher can do nowt.

[jackthehat]

The teacher has recently suffered a stress-induced stroke.
He returned to school apparently still not completely recovered as he was seen muttering to himself and shaking.

The little darlings in his class started singing about ".....the psycho in the mirror" and when asked to stop, the injured lad swore at him.

snap !

A favourite teacher then ranted that "people are going to die !" and started his physical assaults.

I don't for one minute believe that the lad deserved what he got, but neither do I hold him blameless nor the teacher fully guilty.

[Oneeyedvic]

How much respect have the media got?

On yesterdays news conference, the police asked journalists not to name the child or teacher or print photographs even though they can get that information easily.

Guess what? Plastered all over the newspapers and internet sites.

You also have media companies attempting to bug the royal family and mps.

You have media companies attempting to portray paedophiles on every corner, thus influencing parents into not allowing kids out.

If you want someone to blame, try the media.

[jake-the-peg]

Why is beating with a stick an acceptable punishment for a child but not for a wife?

[Quinlad]

"Tools of control"?

Impeccable geezer logic. Because teachers aren't allowed to hit children, one of them has snapped and started hitting children.

[R1Geezer]

Tools of control means the whole set numpty, lines, detention, clip round the ear, cane if necessary.

You lefties just cannot see the damage you have done can you.

I can fully understand how someone can want to kill one of this lowlife scum.

[jake-the-peg]

That is it with you right wing nutters?

Your only answer seems to be violence

Nuke the arabs

Bring back hanging

Corporal punishment in schools



Wouldn't be to do with your upbringing would it?

No silly me

A few canings didn't do you any harm - I forgot for a moment

[R1Geezer]

The problem Jake is that children have lost any respect for adults, they know their rights. The punishments available when I was at school where rarely used, the one we feared most was detenton, we used to ask for the cane instead! Now detention is an abuse of ooman rihts or some right on lefty bullsh1t. I know it's an old cliche but it really was true in my day that we did not tell our parents because we know we'd get in even more trouble. Now parents of unruly little sh1ts cannot accept their little darling is anything other than pure and come up the school threatening teachers.

No wonder teachers are at their wits end and yes I know several personally, including a head master.

This teacher has my sympathy.

Ok Jake what is the answer? Over to you.

[Oneeyedvic]

Although some on this site would refer to me as a liberal leftie, I do actually agree that children can be smacked under certain circumstance (even though I was given the slipper at school and beaten by my father). Although I am only 35, because I went to a private school, teachers were still allowed to throw chalk (and board rubbers), give us lines, detentions and the slipper.

HOWEVER, this story has nothing to do with the 'fact' that kids don't generally get corporal punishment any more. At my school the kids a year above us gave one of the teachers a nervous breakdown - this is despite the punishments that could be given out.

It is also interesting how all the past pupils are saying that he was a good teacher. Discipline does not seem to have been a problem at this school.

As Jake & Quinlad allude to, your simplistic attitude is as ridiculous as saying that if we had capital punishment there would be no crime.

[R1Geezer]

Hang on guys before you spit out the organic peace muesli, where have I said I favour the return of corporal punishment?. The thrust of this arument is the creation of little monsters over the last 40 years by the slow removal of any form of control by teachers. As far as I can tell the only sanction schools have now is the "nuclear" option suspension.

Ok how do we sort the problem, do you even agree there is a problem?

[DaisyMae]

I think that the 'problem' has been largely overstated in a media which has become so inured with and by sensationalism that it needs and feeds off more and more sensational headlines. I live quite near a school and the children pass my house to and from school daily. I have seen them grow from toddlers to young adults and I find them charming and polite most of the time. Occasional boistrousness is not hooliganism and I am neither a liberal leftie nor an intolerant Tory. I just love children and hate to see them unhappy or hurt. They are our future and I don't believe you can beat sense, knowledge or good manners into them - they learn by example, we have to show them respect to earn it back. If you always smile and say please and thank you to them they return the compliment.