Would you have refused them entry?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-120035 1/Jeweller-warned-racially-offensive-sign-bann ing-Eastern-Europeans-shop---string-raids-Roma nians.html

Was this shopkeeper wrong to refuse entry into his shop?

Is it perfectly lawful to refuse entry to drunks, people in muddy wellingtons, Hell's Angels etc,etc. but illegal to refuse entry to racial groups or people who you suspect of being shoplifters regardless?

[daffy654]

Of course he was wrong,you cannot discriminate against groups of people based solely on their race.

[R1Geezer]

His main problem is that he put up a sign. As a shopkeeper you do not have to serve anyone for any reason you you can make up on the spot. Howvever you cannot exclude a group because the are in that group. eg you cannot say we don't serve women for example but you can just say to each one that comes into the shop that yoou do not want their custom.

[DEN53]

Whats wrong with posting this sign in HIS shop.

Loads of sweet shops put signs up saying 'not more than 3 school children in the shop at one time'. Is that not discrimating against school kids ?

[Barmaid]

No it is not discrimination because that kind of age related "discrimination" is not covered by the DDA or RRA. Discrimination only arises as R1Geezer and daffy have pointed out.

[R1Geezer]

apparently there's a sweet shop in parliament square with a sign saying "No more than 2 MP's at a time". A wise precaution!

[noway2]

There was a african hairdressers in Dublin that said No whites allowed.

[LazyGun]

He himself say he put the sign up in anger to start off with. Decisions made in anger are often poor decisions.
Of course its discriminatory, and he knows it, despite all the feeble rationalisations.

A sign saying 3 or more school kids is not discriminatory, since it makes no judgement as to gender, culture or colour. Nor is it actually banning entry to the store - just restricting numbers.

In the same fashion the shopowner putting up a sign a few weeks ago saying no more than 2 MPs at a time is probably ok.

[DEN53]

I was just using the sweet shop as a tongue in cheek comment.

Pity the police were not as quick to catch the thieves as they were to take the shopowner to task over the sign.

[Haggisdj]

The majority of jewellers shops in Luton always have the doors locked. You usually have to ring a bell to gain entry, could he not do this and simply refuse them entry. or as above, two at a time?

[anotheoldgit]

Zacsmaster

I notice that you have spent your time to come onto the site, specially just to make that rather rude and simply childish remark.

You never seem to make any useful contributions to this site, so please don't try and stop others who wish to, from taking part.

[albaqwerty]

zac is not stopping anyone from posting unless he happens to have a sign saying "no-one is allowed to post"

[VHG]

>Nor is it actually banning entry to the store - just
>restricting numbers.

Maybe he should put a sign up saying no more then zero Roma gypsies !!!

Yet again we suffer at the hands of Roma gypsies because some stupid politicians decided it would be a good idea to allow anyone from anyone EU country to come here without restriction.

We dont want Roma gypsies, nobody wants Roma gypsies, why should we have to have them here.

[webbo3]

of course he can.
im sure the Proprietor has the right to refuse admission to their business, when i was younger my friends and my self could'nt get into nightclubs because we were a group of blokes, they used to say " too many blokes in the club already" or" there is too many of you".
so in my opinion he has every right to refuse who he likes

[paraffin]

The wording of his notice breached the terms of the Race Relations Act, therefore he was breaking the law.

Those people who disagree with that are clearly condoning the law breaking. Put it this way, the days of "No Blacks" or "No Irish" are a thing of the past in England (officially). Get used to it, folks.

[rov1200]

Are there any wealthy Romanians out there wishing to buy jewellry? I thought most of them were beggars.

[ELVIS68]

No rov, most of them are thieves, only the nice ones beg

[daffy654]

webbo,nobody is denying that the shopkeeper can refuse entry to whomever he likes,we ARE saying that he cannot have a sign up stating that certain ethnic groups are not allowed in.That is an illegal practice.