Is Andy Cole British?

[sp1814]

Apparently not...at least \'not ethnically\' according to BNP activist Joey Barber:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219538/BBC-storm-BNPs-notorious-activists-invited-Radio-1-insult-Ashley-Cole.html

The story raises a number of questions...

1. Taking Mr Barber\'s comments at face value, and as Ashley Cole\'s mum is a white British woman called Sue Cole, doesn\'t this mean that Ashley is ethnically \'half British\'?

2. Does anyone outside the BNP actually use the term \'ethnically British\'? It\'s a new one on me. People normally refer to their race, or their nationality (as in \"I\'m white\" or \"I\'m Indian\" or \"I\'m black - rather than \"I\'m ethnically British\").

3. There\'s a reported quote from Mark Collett (the BNP\'s head of publicity): \'AIDS is a friendly disease because blacks, drug users and gays have it.\' Do you think the silent majority actually agree with those sentiments.

4. The BBC are being attacked for allowing this to be broadcast. I think they should be priased to the rafters. Am I wrong

5. Why does Joey Barber look like a member of a boyband?

[sp1814]

I have no idea why those backslashes have appeared on my post by the way.

Also, the link is from the Daily Mail because I happened to see the front page in the newsagents today (as I was picking up a copy of the far superior Independent On Sunday).

[sp1814]

Only repeating a quote from the interview. I'd like to hear whether others quantify his 'Britishness'....especially seeing how much tax he must be shovelling into the nation's coffers!

[Rollo]

What has Andy Cole - in the title - got to do with Ashley Cole?

[mallam]

My dear sp, I would never suspect you of reading the DMail.

"Ethnically British" is of course ethnically gibberish. Ethnicity is not the same as either race or nationality, but such distinctions are beneath the notice of the BNP. Who knows what they mean by ethnically British? Everything they say seems off the scale, but it would be more so if it weren't in code.

[sp1814]

D'oh - I meant 'Ashley'. I don't even know who Andy Cole is!

[daffy654]

1: Both Andy Cole and Ashley Cole are British,possibly even more so than I am considering my German and Canadian ancestors.
2: I've never heard the term 'ethnically British' before,what does it actually mean...if anything?
3: AIDS is not a friendly disease and it affects non drug using,white heterosexuals as well as all other groups.
4: Freedom of speech etc. I would have changed stations rather than listened to it though.
5: ???

[sp1814]

daffy654

Re: question five - click on the link to the Daily Mail story and scroll down to the photo of the two activists. You'll see what I mean!

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

If the Independent is a far superior newspaper than the Mail, then why didn't you post a link from your favourite paper, seeing that they also reported on it?

Although like you they had to quote the much more superior investigating journalism of the Sunday Mail to get their point over.

See below:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hain-to-complain-to-bbc-over-bnp-on-question-time-1801127.html

Regarding whether or not the BBC should have been allowed to broadcast it? The time to worry is when the State controls what can or cannot be broadcast, all of what is reminiscent of Nazi Germany and some Communist countries of today.

[sp1814]

AOG,

Perfectly valid points on my choice of Sunday Reading material. Hadn't actually opened the IoS when I posted the link.

What are you opinions on AIDS being a friendly disease and Ashley Cole not being technically British.

[daffy654]

Andy Cole suddenly decided he wanted to be called Andrew Cole Steve.5 sometime back in the 90's I think,but then you probably already knew that and were trying to be obtuse.

[anotheoldgit]

Steve.5

Regarding the Beano being far superior to the Daily Mail, I assumed that I was on a grown-up site.

I suppose if a group of immatures were given a choice between the Beano and the Daily Mail, the Beano would come tops everytime.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

What are you opinions on AIDS being a friendly disease and Ashley Cole not being technically British.

No disease is friendly and yes Ashley Cole is technically British even though he would most likely prefer to class himself as Black British.

[Lonnie]

I believe I mentioned in a post a few days ago, before all this came up, that to join the BNP you have to be indigenously British. To the BNP. that means White, of either Celtic or Anglo Saxon origin, regardless od what they say, their long term goal is to populate this Island with only those people.

As for Ashley Cole, he's 100% British, makes no difference if he classes himself as Black British, (and I don't know that he does), he's British.

On the subject of colour, i'm white, but would not fall into the categories stated, as I have Middle Eastern and Greek blood running through my veins, and the fact that I, and many others who don't qualify, have spent some considerable time fighting to keep these islands free, won't make the slightest bit of difference to these Bigots.