Glasgow By-election

[jake-the-peg]

The Scots don't like Tories much do they?

Never likely to be fruitful and a low turn-out but 1,075 votes? keeping their deposit by the skin of their teeth!

If Cameron becomes PM will this abhorance of right wing politics strengthen the calls for an independence referendum?

And more importantly what do they need to achieve to show that they deserve the chance to put it to the vote?

Cameron doesn't seem a big fan of referenda after all!

[R1Geezer]

The sweaties have never liked the Tories, this is nothing new. The EU makes the whole independance thing irrelivant anyway but if they must control their part of the deck on the Titanic then let them. I'd vote for Scottish indpendence if it meant that but they'd be mad to, they get 130% per head spent on them compared to England. So they'd strengthen England. But as I say the UK isn't independent anyway!

[filibuster]

As a Scot, I'd like to know, what is a "sweatie"?

[rov1200]

The trend in voting patterns has meant that the Tories controlled most of the South (excluding the lib dems in the SW) and the further North you went they assumed less and less influence. The middle classes under Blair switched allegience from the Tories but in the next election are likely to switch back. So Labour may be restricted to the industrial heartlands and inner cities.

The only link with Labour in Scotland is Gordon Brown but Cameron with his 'trying to please all of the people all of the time' may not go along the right wing as he knows it will lose him votes. Blair fooled most of us for most of the time. Cameron will be hoping for much of the same.

[filibuster]

Zeuhl, thank you for the explanation. I'm obviously suspiciously sensitive.

The Tories don't win votes in Scotland because of the way Margaret Thatcher treated them during her term of office. She arranged for a review of rates in Scotland only, using Scotland as guinea pigs for her policies.
I used to vote Tory but I wrote to the Scottish Secretary and told him why I would never vote Tory again, and I never have - and never will.

[brionon]

The BBC managed to link the words ''Big trouble'' to the Labour win and ''Better'' to the Tory Third place. Bias or Wot ? innit !

[jake-the-peg]

But what does Scotland have to do in the election for Salmond to have a mandate to call for a referendum?

[jake-the-peg]

Who's this "we" that's hardly independant

Come on Youngmafbog - learn to love your inner European self!

[Gromit]

//The only link with Labour in Scotland is Gordon Brown//

2005 Election result for Scotland (Before Brown was PM)

LABOUR 41 seats
LD 11 seats
SNP 6 seats
CONSERVATIVE 1 seat

[Quizmonster]

Brionon, you make an excellent point. The Tories got 60-odd votes more than the BNP yesterday...some achievement.
It's 'the done thing' to decry Media Studies, but I don't think anyone should nowadays be allowed to leave school without gaining a qualification in the subject. If they did, they would spot the anti-Labour bias in almost EVERY news broadcast from the BBC. (They may well be 'left-wing' but they're certainly not pro-Labour! Indeed, they are only mildly more subtle than The Sun.) Well said, anyway.

[VHG]

As this was a glasgow by-election you can assume many of the people voting on on some sort of benefit or other.

As Brown seems happy to give our money away in benefits to anyone that wants it then those on benefits will vote for him.

This works until the country is broke (which is just about is), then we will all begin to realise Brown has managed to bankrupt the country all on his own, for which he will go down is history.

[rov1200]

Amskiunshit
The sooner that Scotland gets its independence the better. They are just a drain on England's finances getting paid extra with the Barnett formula. Why should they be treated as though they need extra funding to cope. They are so well off now we are really subsidising their education and health at our expense.

If they do go independent you can keep Gordon Brown as a farewell gift.

[Sqad]

Turn out of 33%

67% couldn't care a "toss"

[Quizmonster]

Surely we all know Gordon Brown was secretly the Chief Executive of Lehman Brothers, Chancellor of the Exchequer in Iceland and Managing Director of Northern Rock - among many other such posts - whilst moonlighting as Britain's Prime Minister!
I actually hold him personally responsible for the mutiny on the Bounty, the fall of Singapore and the attack on the Twin Towers.

[scotman]

The biggest problem that I see in Scotland is that a significant proportion of the population would like independence, myself included. Problem is that only the SNP will ever achieve this and at present I don't fancy them to run the country. They have unreasonable public sector objectives.

[KaptKopter]

Stick a red rosette on a cabbage and in my area it will get the most votes