Why is burglary treated as a minor crime?

[R1Geezer]

I consider it a very serious invasion of personal space/property, a virtual rape. Some of the victims are traumatised permanently, often having to move. Yet our courts treat it like shop lifting. To get jailed a criminal has to have dozens under the belt. So why as a society can we not lock this scum up for longer?

[Sandy-Wroe]

There wouldn't be enough prisons?

[dothawkes31]

I don't understand why it is treated so leniently, when a burglar attempts to break in anywhere he has probably already planned to do that and is aware of who lives there and what it is he is after stealing, if he/she plans to break into a house where he knows there are women and children ot elderley people, he is therefore totally ruthless and has no concern for the terror he could inflict or how he is going to be reacted to. If there was a risk assessment done for burglars, none of them would be allowed to carry on the trade.

[Oneeyedvic]

////I consider it a very serious invasion of personal space/property, a virtual rape.////

Says someone who has obviously had no contact with rape victims.

A bit like comparing MPs expenses to the Holocaust.

[R1Geezer]

Blue Geezer badge right there for sandy-wroe.

Build more! end of. Anyway if they knw it was 10 years first offence burglary would pretty well stop. Initially prison population would rise but in the long term there would be less in jail. Paradoxical thinking, lefties hate it!

There is also the Geezer prison outsourcing plan to consider!

[brionon]

Geezer, I'm with you on this. If anyone breaks into my house and escapes alive ,it won't be my fault.

[Sqad]

one eyed.....I thought that R!Geezer, was alluding to the sexual act but:

" to seize and take away by force"


I may be wrong.

[youngmafbog]

Its not just burglary Geezer, we have become limp writed on all crime. Teh direct result of hand wringing pinko liberals sitting in judgement egged on by Jack 'man of' Straw and Bottler who dont want to build more Jails.

As you say, build more bang them up for proper length, no early release, no playstations etc and then lets see what happens. The liberalidea has failed, no surprise so lets change it.

All for outsourcing so long as its Thailand or maybe Turkey. i.e. somewhere they know how to run a Jail.

[Sqad]

error...should have said "Not alluding the sexual act"

[tamborine]

Most homes have 'content' insurance and stolen goods can be replaced via insurance.

It's barbaric to damage anyone to the extent this burglar was. Who will now maintain this brain-damaged burglar - tax payers!

[ummmm]

Gosh...this makes my life seem so bad...It's not, honest.

I was burgled just after Christmas by a night time burglar. He got into my house via the kitchen window (old Victorian house) he lit a candle and went round taking what ever he could carry....he was on foot.

I didn't realise what had happened the next morning....just that things had been moved around. It dawned on us pretty quickly though as my kids xmas presents were missing. Once we'd realised what had happened we followed the candle wax. I had a very large house at the time and my bedroom was on the third floor....going by the candle wax he stood at the end of my bed for sometime...whilst I was asleep. He'd been in and out of my kids rooms as well....

I was sick after...I didn't wake up and he could've taken my kids without me knowing.

He got 6 years....

[R1Geezer]

... and out in 3, harsh! not!

[naomi24]

This makes me angry. I'm with Brionon. Burglars choose to break into homes, and if they are injured or killed in the process - tough! I'd be happy to see burglars thrown in prison for life!

[jake-the-peg]

You don't think 6 years is severe for burglary?

OK lets have the Geezer tariff:
Speeding?
Tax evasion ?
Shoplifting?
Burglary?
Assault?
GBH?
Manslaughter?
Murder?

[ummmm]

This is the funny part. He stole my packs of 200 fags and all my alcohol and then went into my local pub trying to flog them....to my friends...

I didn't know him but he lived just down the road....drug addict. He'd broken into 25 houses before mine. I was 26 and then he got caught.

I couldn't sleep for a long time after....thank God I ware PJ's...!!!

[ummmm]

26 Jake....

[tamborine]

awful ummmm - the ifs & buts are worse .

I had a balaclava burglar (I wasn't in) - chased off by a.n.other. He only took money/watch & considered a youth due to his choice of burgled items. I wanted the house cleared!

[ummmm]

That's it Tambo....the what if's.....made me too scared to sleep. He could have took my kids...he could have raped me..and so on. Although it happened and it was over you can't stop your mind going crazy.

[R1Geezer]

I'd accept 6 years if it actually meant 6 years in a proper prison rather than 3 years in Butlins.

I will give a tarrif for those Jake but first I want to make it clear that under the geezer rules there is no remission for good behavious but a sentance can be increased for bad behaviour. There are also no concurrent sentences.
Speeding? - the current system is about right for that
Tax evasion - ditto
Shoplifting? - 1 year 1st offence, 5years second offence, 10 years thereafter
Burglary? - 10 years first offence, 20 years thereafter
Assault? - Depends on severity but I'd go with the current system on that (note remisiion is now banned)
GBH? - I'll go with the current system on that
Manslaughter? - ditto
Murder? - Life with no possibilty of parole.

We'd obviously have a period were extra jail space is needed but, we can outsource that.

[Oneeyedvic]

///Speeding? - the current system is about right for that ///

So you think that someone who goes out and deliberately flouts the law and puts their own as well as other people's lives in danger deserves no more that a few points on their licence and an inconsequential fine, but if some one breaks in and steals your tv, then should be sent to prison for 10 years.

Wow.

[R1Geezer]

yes vic wel done , you have grasped it correctly.

There is a range of speeding from £60 fixed pen, up to Jail in extreme cases.

Burglary is much much worse, I'm sorry you think invasion of someone property is not as bad as speeding, still I guess it takes all sorts!