No Global Warming Since 1995

[Hymie]

Scientists have admitted that there has been no global warming since 1995 – do you think we should get a refund of the so called ‘environmental taxes’ we have been conned in to paying?

[Androcles]

Sorry, haven't seen the source of your data - where was it?

[Hymie]

It is reported in the Mail Online – which is as reliable a source as the Readers Digest or Wikipedia (good enough for me).

http://www.dailymail....s-data-organised.html

[lslowry]

Perhaps now that anyone disputes the so called "facts" on global warming, the zealots don't start hurling insults at anyone that has doubts on the subject. Knowing the commitment of government paid experts to brainwash people, i won't hold my breath.

[modeller]

Assuming that there hasn't been any increase in global warming since 1995 why are the arctic ice sheets still melting and the sea ice getting thinner ? Also during the last 2/3 years tourist boats can now use the north west passage and travel from the North Sea to the Pacific albeit during the summer months.

[Hymie]

I have a map of Glacier Bay (Alaska), showing the position of the glacier at various dates (years) since 1780.

Currently, the distance from the bay entry to the inner most glacier is around 60 miles. In 1780 the bay was closed – with the glacier being at the mouth of the bay. By 1880 the glacier had receded by around 50 miles (opening up the bay). Since the bay averages more than 5 miles in width – this is well over 250 square miles of glacier. From around 1920, the glacier has started moving back towards the sea – although only by a mile or so.

No doubt the above observations can be shown to be due to man made global warming (especially by those who cite melting ice as proof of global warming).

Those Eskimos driving around in SUVs back in the early 1800s have a lot to answer for.

[rov1200]

No scientist has yet come up with the answer to global warming round about the period 1000 AD. I posed this question by asking if it were due to too many wood fires? We have all been had and we are going to pay dearly for this mis-information. I believe the Chinese are the only country to ignore it and look how well they are doing now.

[BillyBB]

Why do you think it's called the North West 'Passage' ? The Russians shipped millions of tonnes of freight that way without any song and dance. Recent voyages were just used as more AGW propaganda.
More polar bears alive now than twenty years ago . . . .

But I was sure the warming phase carried on to 1998 and suspect we will see a hotter planet yet before descending into the next ice age. Still won't be worrying about warming until I see some hard evidence of positive feedback instead of the large amount of negative feedback seen so far.

With our deficit greater than Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Iceland we need all the taxes Hymie, expect more.

[modeller]

I found your answer Billy BB very interesting with regards the millions of tons of freight being sent by the Russians through the North West Passage , will you send me the link as I can't find one ton let alone millions.

[BillyBB]

Sorry Northern Sea Passage which is the bit north of Russia. It is the route the German shipping firm made a lot of noise about in autmun claiming to be the first to travel that way. Which in turn was churned out as evidence of global warming by the newpapers etc.
Main reason it wasn't used much in the twentieth century was the cold war rather than ice. Russia was a bit prickly about ships travelling that way.
http://www.cnrs-scrn....ol03/tnm_3_2_1-17.pdf

Pictured above is the nuclear powered ice-capable transport Sevmorput, built specifically for the northeast passage and launched in 1988, whence it had been plying the route ever since, only recently having been withdrawn for conversion into a drilling ship.

Meanwhile, the Murmansk Shipping Company – which is the specialist operator in the northern sea route - is currently running a fleet of 303 vessels with a total deadweight of about 1.2 million tons. In 2006, the company shipped 2 million tons of cargo through the route. Pictures of some of the fleet are here, with some of the ships currently plying the northern sea route shown below.