Iran's girls football team, banned from Olympics.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph....or-wearing-hijab.html

/// The hijab is worn by girls and women to observe Islamic dress code.///

Is it only Iran that fields a woman's team?

If not will the ban apply to all Muslim women's teams, no matter what country?

[Ankou]

is it only Iran that fields a woman's team - it is a six-nation tournament for girls at the inaugural Youth Olympics being held Aug. 12-25 in Singapore

will the ban apply to all Muslim women's teams- Law 4 states that "basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.

did you even read your own link ???

[R1Geezer]

Well Law 4 is quite clear, no relgious garb of any sort for anyone, end of. That would I presume also cover sikh's for example. They are not banning Muslim and/or womens teams, just what they would like to play in.

[BOBBYPERU]

Law 4 states that "basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements...............

Does this mean that the Scotland Football team wont be able to have a dagger in their sock when they play?

[Zeuhl]

///Does this mean that the Scotland Football team wont be able to have a dagger in their sock when they play? ///

That's correct. Only the usual flick knife, hip flask and bicycle chain.

[TCL-MUMPING]

I would say someone has got it wrong somewhere along the line.

The International FA Board said
"Decision 1
Players must not reveal undergarments showing slogans or advertising. The
basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal
statements.
A player removing his jersey or shirt to reveal slogans or advertising will be
sanctioned by the competition organiser. The team of a player whose basic
compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements
will be sanctioned by the competition organiser or by FIFA."

Law 4 defines compulsory equipment as follows

"The basic compulsory equipment of a player comprises the following separate
items:
• a jersey or shirt with sleeves – if undergarments are worn, the colour of the
sleeve must be the same main colour as the sleeve of the jersey or shirt.
• shorts – if undershorts are worn, they must be of the same main colour as
the shorts
• stockings
• shinguards
• footwear"

Nowhere is headwear defined as "basic compulsory equipment" so why has the hijab been banned?

[naomi24]

TCL Mumping, It appears there's already been a safety issue relating to this form of attire and this is what the rulemakers have decided is right. Rules are rules, aren't they?

AOG, I can't see why there should be a ban on all Muslim women's teams. They'll be fine as long as they abide by the regulations.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

I was only assuming that if they were Muslims, and the hijab is worn to observe Islamic dress code, then all Muslim team players would need to wear a hijab.

[Oneeyedvic]

AOG - have you still not worked out that Muslims (like Christians) have different rituals according to their sect.

The hijab is not worn by all Muslims (as I am sure you must be aware), just as not all Christians wear crosses.

[naomi24]

As I said, they'll be fine as long as they abide by the regulations.

[jno]

this sounds like a gender matter rather than a religious one: if male Muslim teams were banned there'd be a stink. But women, who needs 'em. Quite what the safety issues are with headscarves, who knows?

[grasscarp]

I heard a caller on the radio talking about this today. He said if they were in Hijabs, they could go in at half time and a completely different team could come out and you wouldnt know!!!!

[McMouse]

They could all be blokes. But they'd still be rubbish.

[naomi24]

I can't see how it can be a gender issue. I imagine the same ruling must apply to Sikh men and their turbans.

Grasscarp, that's a very good point.

[grasscarp]

Hi Naomi. The observation made me fall about laughing and I dont usually laugh that early in the day!

[naomi24]

Well, I must admit it wasn't something that occurred to me - but it's a thought. Haaa. :o)

[TCL-MUMPING]

Rules are rules but where is the rule banning the hijab?

[naomi24]

You can't expect to find a new rule in a list of old ones. It's obviously just been added.

[TCL-MUMPING]

With regards to the comment that different players could come on at half-time, it shows the ignorance of the person making that comment since the face is clearly visible.

[Ankou]

law 4 is clear.

but i dont really see the issue myself.

http://cache.daylife....8KB8Ut1EHakn/610x.jpg

[naomi24]

Oh dear. How different your attitude is when the rules don't work your way. Never mind. At least we know you agree that rules are rules.