Privileged upbringings

[anotheoldgit]

There is no need to post the link that this passage came from, one can read similar in almost any newspaper.

/// Gordon Brown set the tone for a class war campaign yesterday by mentioning his 'ordinary middle-class background' while his Labour attack dogs launched spiteful attacks on David Cameron's privileged upbringing.///

The question I ask is, why are Labour constantly going on about 'privileged upbringings'?

Do they not also enjoy a privileged life style, and won't their off-springs also enjoy a 'privileged upbringing'?

[TTG]

I'd rather the next prime minister was well educated. If he was taught at Eton that must be a good thing.

It smells of desperation when Labour has to resort to childish taunts about where a person was taught!

[anotheoldgit]

A couple of lines from the "Money Song"

Ask a rich man he'll confess, money can't buy happiness.

Ask a poor man he don't doubt, but he would rather be miserable with, than without.

[joggerjayne]

Very good, AOG

[modeller]

During my life I have canvassed for both parties according to who I thought was best for the country at the time. However I found the easiest way to get support was to denigrate the other side rather than argue in a logical manner.

You see this on AB some hard line supporters would rather make silly or abusive remarks than argue in a logical manner.

[naomi24]

Steve, if you're including me in that, I voted Labour all my life - until this government taught me otherwise. This isn't a Labour government - it's a complete and utter shambolic disgrace. If anyone's out for ambitious iconic status - and to feather their own nests at the expense of this country and its people, it's this shameful bunch!

[Zeuhl]

///Modeller have you not been accussed of being a hypocrite ?///

steve,

you may be missing the key element of time. Claiming to believe conflicting things at the same time is hypocrisy.

I canvassed for Thatcher and Major in the 80s and 90s because it seemed to be the right thing for the country then.

I have not supported The Conservatives since.

If you change your beliefs over time that is not hypocrisy.

[ludwig]

It's pretty sad that after 13 years of government, one of the main campaigning points of Labour seems to be 'Don't vote for the Tories - they're all toffs'.
Shouldn't they just be able to point to their record in government, instead of trying to distract people from it?

[joggerjayne]

There are lots of things to which Labour cannot point ...

Like the gold reserves which the nation had at the start of Labour's tenure, and which they sold off to try to disguise the massive deficit in their budget calculations ...

... and which are now gone.

[naomi24]

As I said JJ, some fritter it away.

[joggerjayne]

Yes.

[rov1200]

You have to ask yourselves why Cameron, Osborne and Boris Johnston have all risen to the top of the political tree at roughly the same time. You can rule out individual brilliance. They all went to Eton at the same time and belonged to the Bullingdon club.
You could come to the conclusion that there is a lot of back scratching going on and a closed network of old Etonions forming a clique.

The Tory party is obviously not driven by a getting together of all the talents, just priviledge.

[naomi24]

Steve, if you weren’t including me in your statement, then you only had to say so and I would have apologised for misunderstanding you. If you were including me, then please allow me the right to reply.

//if you truly believe that this shower are unique, then you are very misguided I`m afraid. //

Don’t be afraid. I’m not stuck in a time-warp of good old Labour because they aren’t good old Labour. They are New Labour - and don‘t we know it?! The days when the Labour party represented the working man are long gone, but people like you fail to recognise it because you don‘t want to. You cling doggedly to the respectable old Labour roots that this government have systematically destroyed, and to the upright principles of by-gone days long since abandoned by the people you‘re supporting. I think your wrong when you say they aren‘t unique. They‘re unique in the worst possible sense of the word. The other parties aren’t going to get us out of the mess we’re in easily - we know that - but that’s no reason for me to give these two faced charlatans with their dubious politics my endorsement to complete their destruction of what’s left of this once fine country.

[naomi24]

Steve, that surprised me. Your posts gave me the impression that you were an intransigent Labour voter who, like many, suffers from an archaically rose-tinted view of their values, and hence would support them regardless of what they do. Although it is your right not to vote, personally I think it's a mistake. Nothing will ever change if we don't make the effort to change it - however futile that effort might seem at the time. When we recognise such gross injustice and such blatant deceit, the very least we can do is to exercise our right to oppose it. If we don't, then we will, in effect, have given this despicable government our endorsement to continue to drag this country and its people further into the mire. Anyway, thanks for clearing up that misconception.

[Quinlad]

A lot of people have been let down by Labour. Their pledge to end child poverty has been a spectacular failure for example. Does it logically follow though that you should then vote Tory?

If a party has failed to live up to its ethos (an ethos that you support), does it make sense to vote for a party with a contradictory ethos?

It's like buying a poodle because you want a dog that doesn't bite, and then when it does, you concede you were wrong, get rid of it and buy a pitbull.

[naomi24]

Steve, //the previous government were voted out because of their sleaze & arrogance,this one appears to be heading the same way. //

True - but by comparison, that bunch's antics were nothing on the current Government's. We seem to have reached a stage with this government where nothing shocks us. We even have an un-elected Peter Mandelson, err... sorry LORD Mandelson .... whose own history leaves much to be desired, making decisions for us and pontificating across the airwaves at us - a prime minister in all but title - and we just accept it. I think the electorate now feel that whatever this government does is par for the course, and I fear that because of people's apathy, they may not be heading the same way as the last Conservative government. As Del Boy (aka David Jason) rightly said the other day, at least the Conservatives had the decency to step down when they were caught out. This lot don't. They think they're a law unto themselves - and they are - because we allow them to be. Incidentally, I believe the perception that Labour speaks solely for the working man or that the Conservatives speak solely for the 'toffs' is an idea that's deeply inbred in people and is stuck in the past. They don't. This government deserves a swift boot up the nether regions, and I hope the people of this country, now they have the opportunity, will kick them as far into oblivion as they possibly can. I can only hope.

Quinlad, a bad analogy. Firstly I've discovered that the ethos that I was led to believe was embraced wasn't, and secondly, buying a pitbull would be tantamount to voting for the BNP, so I'll plump for a labrador.