BNP leaflet.

[anotheoldgit]

The postman has just posted some election leaflets through my door, among them was one for the BNP.

Their pledges were, /// bring our troops home from Afghanistan, saying "our brave troops have been sent to die in an unwinnable war which has nothing to do with Britain or British interests".///

/// Put a stop to immigration.///

/// Raise the weekly pension to £150, the £18 billion Lab-Lib-Con give China and India to 'adapt' to non-existent Climate Change should go to our pensioners.///

Can't see anything wrong with these points, but I am sure there are plenty out there that will disagree.

But please let's have facts, not scary stories one has heard about the BNP.

[Quinlad]

Let's hope people don't ruin this thread by suggesting that the BNP are racist thugs.

After all, on Question Time, Nick Griffin made it clear he's only friends with "almost totally non-violent" members of the Ku Klux Klan.

So that's that settled.

[Quinlad]

Are you saying that climate change is non-existent? Or that it's not man-made?

[Gromit]

AOG, Christmas has come early because you can download the manifesto here:

http://www.general-el...NP-Manifesto-2010.pdf

Dn't get too excited that you won't be able to get to sleep.

[Zeuhl]

I suspect that the issue here is not that there is anything 'bad' about these ideas, just that they are naive and simplistic.

/bring our troops home from Afghanistan/

yes - and i bet all the parties would like to wave that particular magic wand but it probably has repercussions on other aspects of foreign policy and allied co-operation in NATO etc

/Put a stop to immigration/

what? even when we need skills the current workforce can't provide? I think most people would pragmatically settle for more control rather than a blanket ban.

/Raise the weekly pension to £150, the £18 billion Lab-Lib-Con give China and India to 'adapt' to non-existent Climate Change should go to our pensioners/

Two points here. First, the pension should be raised, current rates are a disgrace for such a large economy as ours. Second, the government waste £18 billion in all sorts of places; I suspect the deal with India/China is a lot more complex than us packing a ginormous suitcase with cash and handing it over.
There will be other dependecies but the subtleties of such global deals may have eluded the lads at Skinhead HQ.

[steg]

pulling the troops out would be a bad thing imo
i would prefer to fight the terrorists on their soil rather than mine

[Zeuhl]

The majority of Taliban we are fighting are not Al Quaeda terrorists they are locals who want control of their own country.

Not unreasonable of them really even if their style of government is abhorrent to us.

I admit, there is an argument that with Taliban control non Afghan terrorists could use Afghanistan as a base of operations against us but unless the Pakistan north west is sorted they can do that anyway.

[lslowry]

climate change has always taken place, quinlad, whether it's caused by man is hotly disputed. i've read so much about it and tend to think it's not

[thedodge]

Let us be honest here if the BNP won every seat they could not run this country.
You have to be good at lying and a cheat to run this country.

[Davethedog]

Zehul - When the Taliban ran Afghanistan they gave shelter to every terrorist group and crackpot group in the middle east. Which is why we are still there.

The Taliban may be locals but the majority of Afgans don't want a totalitarian Taliban government.

BNP bring our boys home what and miss the chance to bash some P^%$&.

[thetruthhurts]

zeuhl, good answer. Steg, they are not fighting terrorists. Terrorists fight on others soil by guerilla warfare. The people who bomb London next are here, now, not fighting in Afghanistan.

[VHG]

I see the BNP want to stop immigration from Muslim nations in their manifesto.

http://news.bbc.co.uk...tion_2010/8639097.stm

But some political opponents says the BNP are "extreme and their policies divisive".

But the same could be said for many Muslims in the UK.

So it is OK to keep letting in extreme Muslims, but wrong to vote for a "extreme" (in their words) political party.

[slark]

The BBC will have nothing good to say about them because the BNP and UKIP want to stop the fat cats TV licence fee.

[VHG]

>...and good at being a racist thug...

Have you seen some of the Asian racist thugs at some of these anti-EDL demos.

http://i.dailymail.co...005DC-116_634x369.jpg

[steg]

thetruthhurts - terrorists were trained in Afghanistan and Middle East.....

" Terrorists fight on others soil by guerilla warfare"
the IRA,UDA etc were terrorists fighting in their own country

[Craftypig]

/Put a stop to immigration/

what? even when we need skills the current workforce can't provide? I think most people would pragmatically settle for more control rather than a blanket ban.

Please dont tell me this country cannot provide the workers neccessary to fill the the job vacancies currently available, I'd be interested to find out how many unemployed people are actually immigrants that came to this country to fill the gaps in the jobs market prior to the credit crunch. I dont care which political party you bend over for or get to tickle your ears, but there is absolutely no need for this country to continue allowing immigration into this counrty under the pretext of "skills shortages" Labours policy of unchecked or otherwise immigration has brought the infrastructure of this counrty to its knees. The sooner the proverbial hits the fan the better.........

[Craftypig]

And I'm not a BNP supporter.........

[123everton]

AOG, at the beginning of this Afghan war the Taliban said that we in the west didn't have the guts for a war with them, that we were too used to our comforts and luxuries, that it was the Afghan's ability to endure, their toughness their guile that would defeat us.
Are they right?

[rov1200]

We have been led into believing BNP are a racist party but are in fact the only party that have our interests at heart. They are no different from English supporters wanting their own football team to win. You could call it patriotism!